RFA re-signings this coming off-season

Pinkfloyd

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Sorry it is 3 mil instead of 1 mil to sign at minimum 3 players.

And if you do your scenario of karlsson and boedker traded with kane at 6 mil. It then leaves 3 mil to sign at minimum 4 players.

And as has been my entire arguement this entire time is tavares is not worth 12 mil for a team that wants to compete. Because it destroys the offensive depth of the team.

The fact that the sharks would need to trade depth just to fit him in without just filling the team with min salary players is destroying the depth of the team.

I get it people are desperate for tge quick fix and tavares is the bright star at the other side of the fence. But killing the cap situation to get him is not smart hockey operations.

I disagree. You don't compete without a top center and Jumbo isn't cutting it anymore and the Sharks can't bet on any of Couture, Pavelski, or Hertl doing it when Tavares is potentially an option. And trading Boedker and Karlsson to help make him fit isn't destroying their depth. Boedker and Karlsson shouldn't be considered quality depth you'd look to retain. If you're talking about Tavares and Kane in this scenario without Thornton, next year's lineup looks like this with all those moves...

Kane-Tavares-Pavelski
Couture-Hertl-Labanc
Meier-Tierney-Donskoi
Sorensen-4C internal or external-Goodrow
extra

Vlasic-Braun
Ryan-Burns
Dillon-DeMelo/Heed

Jones and Dell

That's hardly killing the team's depth. And that setup gives three million to get that 4C and extra forward. That's plenty doable. If Thornton wants to stay here then he'll have to allow the team to be creative with the cap with a 1 mil salary and significant bonuses that could push his compensation up to another 3-5 million that would be allowed to go over the cap.
 

Friday

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I disagree. You don't compete without a top center and Jumbo isn't cutting it anymore and the Sharks can't bet on any of Couture, Pavelski, or Hertl doing it when Tavares is potentially an option. And trading Boedker and Karlsson to help make him fit isn't destroying their depth. Boedker and Karlsson shouldn't be considered quality depth you'd look to retain. If you're talking about Tavares and Kane in this scenario without Thornton, next year's lineup looks like this with all those moves...

Kane-Tavares-Pavelski
Couture-Hertl-Labanc
Meier-Tierney-Donskoi
Sorensen-4C internal or external-Goodrow
extra

Vlasic-Braun
Ryan-Burns
Dillon-DeMelo/Heed

Jones and Dell

That's hardly killing the team's depth. And that setup gives three million to get that 4C and extra forward. That's plenty doable. If Thornton wants to stay here then he'll have to allow the team to be creative with the cap with a 1 mil salary and significant bonuses that could push his compensation up to another 3-5 million that would be allowed to go over the cap.

Oh, thats really pretty
 

TomasHertlsRooster

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May 14, 2012
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Sorry it is 3 mil instead of 1 mil to sign at minimum 3 players.

And if you do your scenario of karlsson and boedker traded with kane at 6 mil. It then leaves 3 mil to sign at minimum 4 players.

And as has been my entire arguement this entire time is tavares is not worth 12 mil for a team that wants to compete. Because it destroys the offensive depth of the team.

The fact that the sharks would need to trade depth just to fit him in without just filling the team with min salary players is destroying the depth of the team.

I get it people are desperate for tge quick fix and tavares is the bright star at the other side of the fence. But killing the cap situation to get him is not smart hockey operations.

It wouldn't be killing the cap anyways. Mikkel Boedker and Melker Karlsson at what they're currently paid is more effectively killing the cap than adding a Tavares type player at 12M would be. Boedker and Karlsson combined over the last 2 seasons have 40 goals and 51 assists in 235 games. We can expect about 40-50 points per season from both of those players combined since Karlsson is always injured and Boedker gets healthy scratched due to inconsistent efforts. Tavares alone has 58 goals and 73 assists in 143 games over the past 2 seasons. Tavares would score 30 goals and 30 assists at the absolute minimum in his first 3-4 seasons in San Jose and probably be closer to a 40-40 type player since he would be leaving an awful team and joining a solid one where he could probably get slightly more favorable matchups and an easier workload.

The team has a ton of space and quite a bit of dead weight that they could get rid of. You add Paul Martin to the duo of Karlsson and Boedker and you've got about 11M of replacement level players on the books for next season. How do 3 replacement level players at 11M not crush the cap but an elite superstar at 12M does?
 

The Nemesis

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Apr 11, 2005
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We won't have cap space for Tavares once Demelo gets his 6 year/$6m per extension with a private mini-fridge in the locker room that's full of red gatorades, peanut butter cups and snack size Toblerone. :sarcasm:
 
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Friday

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Damnit, I totally forgot Demelo was going to get that huge contract haha we're not going to land anyone now.
 

Pinkfloyd

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We won't have cap space for Tavares once Demelo gets his 6 year/$6m per extension with a private mini-fridge in the locker room that's full of red gatorades, peanut butter cups and snack size Toblerone. :sarcasm:

Could you please get new material! JEEZ!
 

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