It's very hard to debate with someone when they don't actually read what you write. Perfect example is this: I said: Won't argue you on the Frk/Helm comparison, I agree with you there. Same thing with the kids doing good, I agree with you there as well. I also dont disagree with you that a lot of the vets are struggling. You said: The vets aren't struggling? So who is struggling? Why are we sixth last in goals/60? Seems to me you are just looking for an argument. Even when I agree with you, you get argumentative.