Rebuilding the Team

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This team needs a rebuild. We are not going anywhere with the 3 old guys.

How do we start this process?
We don't, those guys are here until the contracts are done.

The rest of the guys need to step up.
 

SirQuacksALot

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This team doesn't need a complete rebuild to remain competitive. With a D core of Fowler, Lindholm, Manson, and Montour (no particular order) this team has a young, mobile defense. With the right coach and a couple more speedy forwards this team could remain competitive for at least a few more years.

A full rebuild would require buying out multiple big contracts and dooming this team to be terrible for probably the next ten years due to buyout payments and an internal cap. I'd rather retool with a coach that fits the modern NHL.
 
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This doesn’t need to be a separate thread.

There is a ton of talent on the team and in the system. We need to use it properly.
 

AngelDuck

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but the older 3 guys are hot garbage.
Getz is fine. His line is out there creating chances. He's too old to carry a team but he still had a great season.

Put a team around him so he doesn't have to be so relied on to do everything
 

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Getz is fine. His line is out there creating chances. He's too old to carry a team but he still had a great season.

Put a team around him so he doesn't have to be so relied on to do everything
The hard part is convincing perry to accept a trade out. That changes the mix up front. But, no clue whether he’ll work with the team like MAF or stick it to the ducks like girardi did to the rangers. Forced a buyout by not waiving nmc for ED and ended up making more money after the buyout.

Th D and G are in great shape. Good supporting guys in rackell, silver, cogs, Henrique. Need youngsters to step up like Ritchie, terry, steel, and Jones. Eaves and kesler have to bounce back from injuries but have to be realistic about their offence going forward.
 

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This team is absolutely does not need a rebuild. Rebuilds are necessary when your team has a poor prospect pool and young talent and your older players aren’t getting it done. We have enough young roster players and a good enough pool to where a rebuild would be idiotic.
 

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Kesler noshes on some stem cells this summer, Perry and RC retire. Boom, rebuilt.
 

StreetHawk

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This team is absolutely does not need a rebuild. Rebuilds are necessary when your team has a poor prospect pool and young talent and your older players aren’t getting it done. We have enough young roster players and a good enough pool to where a rebuild would be idiotic.
Not a rebuild, but they have almost $24 million of cap space allotted to 3 forwards. Getz is fine. Perry hasn’t lived up to his contract. Kesler Hirt all year and is just gutting it out. Not practicing at all this season. But should have tempered expectations of his offense going forward. Expect high 40’s and if you get more great.

Need to make serious move. Perry seems like the most logical one to move. Whether he accepts that is another story.
 
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Some people are going to be in for a VERY rude shock on what this team would look like without Getzlaf if they got their wish and Getzlaf was traded. #1 centers don't grow on trees, and Anaheim doesn't have anything close to a potential #1 center in the system.

Better leadership can make the team faster and score more goals?
Well, given Anaheim's current coach loves having safe, slow veterans on the 4th line - it can be inferred that if Anaheim would fire RC and appoint a more modern coach who believes in rolling 4 lines as well as having a mix of young and fast players on the 4th line - Anaheim would automatically become a faster team.

Anaheim really aren't as slow a team as people think. As I said in another thread, they have one of the most mobile, best skating defensive cores in the NHL, and if they moved away from having slow, safe veterans on the 4th line - Anaheim would be quite a fast team outside of Perry and Kesler.
 

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Team doesnt need a big rebuild... just need to cut somr fat. Imo let brown vermette chimera bieska walk, try to move corey perrys contract(i know its borserline impossible)... move ritchie for a change of scenery player around the same age (thoight duclair would have been good, but same idea) maybr kapanen

Rakell getz eaves/terry/steel
Kase henrique silfverberg
Cogs kesler _______
Grant kossila roy/jones etc

Fowler montour
Lindholm manson
Larsson welinski

The gaps or spots with multiple names could be from perry or ritchie trades.
 

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I don't think moving Ritchie returns enough to make sense nor is it anywhere near enough of a shake up. Wouldn't doubt it if BM does though. At worst Ritchie is a perfect 4LW with Grant-____. If he could tone down the stupid and improve his puck skills he could be a middle 6 guy that can hit and score 20 goals. I just don't want to see him moved for a 2nd and then he puts it together a la Palms.
 

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We need a re-tool not a re-build.

1. New coach with a system built for modern hockey
2. Maybe new GM
3. Inject some speed and skill into the lineup

We have a team built around a defensive core that can be doing what the fast teams out East, SJS, and Vegas are doing. RC clearly is holding back guys like Montour. A core of Montour, Lindholm, Fowler, and Manson (with Larsson/Pettersen/Welinski and someone else on the third pairing) has real potential for a foundation of a fast transition team.
 
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Better leadership can make the team faster and score more goals?
The team is plenty fast, especially on D. They need to buy into a system that leverages the team's strengths instead of spending 80% of every game dumping, losing a foot race to a loose puck, and making a line change. This roster is among the most talented in the league, it is an absolute embarrassment that they play so poorly so often.
 

StreetHawk

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We need a re-tool not a re-build.

1. New coach with a system built for modern hockey
2. Maybe new GM
3. Inject some speed and skill into the lineup

We have a team built around a defensive core that can be doing what the fast teams out East, SJS, and Vegas are doing. RC clearly is holding back guys like Montour. A core of Montour, Lindholm, Fowler, and Manson (with Larsson/Pettersen/Welinski and someone else on the third pairing) has real potential for a foundation of a fast transition team.
Th speed complaint is mainly up front. With bieksa and beauch moving on they will insert Larson, Pettersson, welinski, and or one vet guy.

It’s trying to add speed to play with Getz that is challenging. Kesler, let’s see how he recovers in the off season. Guy didn’t even practice just played the games. He was a fast skater, so if he loses a bit he’s down to average. Perry has always been below average in skating. He’s the key it to move.

If he waives a trade can be worked out. But, up to him if he wants to move.
 

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As mentioned in another thread, I'm a NYI fan and a Ducks' groupie. What's interesting is that if I combined the 2 teams, they'd own the league as the NYI have an awesome offense, and the Ducks have a really good goalie and D; the 2 teams complement each other perfectly. Though having Silverberg, Cogs, Rakell and Henrique would fill out the 2nd, 3rd line and possibly 4th lines really well in a combined offense.

That said, the Duckies are FAR closer to having a complete competitive team than my shyte NYI; they just need a few faster forwards with skill up front: a panarin, kuznetsov, etc., and for the others like kase to keep developing.

And yes, I think a coaching change would go a long way, RC seemed to be completely out of his depth this series.
 

nystromshairstylist

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The team is plenty fast, especially on D. They need to buy into a system that leverages the team's strengths instead of spending 80% of every game dumping, losing a foot race to a loose puck, and making a line change. This roster is among the most talented in the league, it is an absolute embarrassment that they play so poorly so often.

The last portion of the season they had to come back alot, it was as if they were trying to catch up to the speed of the other team. Getz IMO is part of the problem, he is really slow and defensively not particularly useful, and like Tavares gets put out on penalty kills which is absolutely absurd. Getz also makes lots of dumb passes which lead to turnovers and scores. In an ideal situation, the Ducks get a new #1C and he moves down a line, and kesler to 3C.
 

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