RE-DO the 2004 First Round...

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  1. Mr. Hab

    Mr. Hab Registered User

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    Who should be in the 1st Round? (from 2nd-3rd-4th-5th rounds...?).
    Redo the entire 1st round (if you dare ;)).
    Who went UP in value? Who went DOWN? (maybe even OUT of 1st round?).


    Here's the entire 1st Round (I don't have the other rounds, please google it or use other sources if you want it!) :

    1 Washington Alexander Ovechkin L Moscow Dynamo (Russia) 81 52 54 106 52
    2 Pittsburgh Evgeni Malkin C Magnitogorsk Metallurg (Russia)
    3 Chicago Cam Barker D Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL) 1 0 0 0 0
    4 Carolina Andrew Ladd L Calgary Hitmen (WHL) 29 6 5 11 4
    5 Phoenix Blake Wheeler R Breck School (Minn.)
    6 NY Rangers Al Montoya G U. of Michigan (NCAA)
    7 Florida Rostislav Olesz C Vitkovice HC (Czech) 59 8 13 21 24
    8 Columbus Alexandre Picard L Lewiston MAINEiacs (QMJHL) 17 0 0 0 14
    9 Anaheim Ladislav Smid D Liberec Bili Tygri HC (Czech)
    10 Atlanta Boris Valabik D Kitchener Rangers (OHL)
    11 Los Angeles Lauri Tukonen R Blues (FNL)
    12 Minnesota A.J. Thelen D Michigan State University (NCAA)
    13 Buffalo Drew Stafford R U. of North Dakota (NCAA)
    14 Edmonton Devan Dubnyk G Kamloops Blazers (WHL)
    15 Nashville Alexander Radulov R Tver (Russia)
    16 NY Islanders Petteri Nokelainen C SaiPa Lappeenranta (FNL) 15 1 1 2 4
    17 St. Louis Marek Schwarz G Sparta Praha (Czech)
    18 Mtl. Canadiens Kyle Chipchura C Prince Albert Raiders (WHL)
    19 NY Rangers Lauri Korpikoski C TPS Jrs. (Finland)
    20 New Jersey Travis Zajac C Salmon Arm Silverbacks (BCHL)
    21 Colorado Wojtek Wolski L Brampton Battalion (OHL) 9 2 4 6 4
    22 San Jose Lukas Kaspar L Litvinov CHP HC (Czech)
    23 Ottawa Andrej Meszaros D Dukla Trencin (Slovak) 82 10 29 39 61
    24 Calgary Kris Chucko L Salmon Arm Silverbacks (BCHL)
    25 Edmonton Rob Schremp C London Knights (OHL)
    26 Vancouver Cory Schneider G Phillips-Andover (Mass.)
    27 Washington Jeff Schultz D Calgary Hitmen (WHL)
    28 Dallas Mark Fistric D Vancouver Giants (WHL)
    29 Washington Mike Green D Saskatoon Blades (WHL) 22 1 2 3 18
    30 Tampa Bay Andy Rogers
     
  2. Jeffrey

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    last pick of the draft ...
    chipchura!!!:sarcasm:
     
  3. Mr. Hab

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    C'mon!!:D Re-do the entire 1st round!!;) I dare you:p:
    (you'd have to check all the other rounds too, to see who deserves to be in the 1st round NOW).

    Anyways...getting late, I have to retire early!!:innocent:

    good luck redoing the 1st round!!
     
  4. Blane Youngblood

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    Wow, what a spread in that draft. It's still a little early to tell on this one but here it goes.

    1 Alexander Ovechkin
    2 Evgeni Malkin
    3 Andrej Meszaros
    4 Wojtek Wolski
    5 Alexander Radulov
    6 Andrew Ladd
    7 Rostislav Olesz
    8 Travis Zajac
    9 Cam Barker
    10 Ladislav Smid
    11 Cory Schneider
    12 Mike Green
    13 Drew Stafford
    14 Lauri Tukonen
    15 Al Montoya
    16 Enver Lisin
    17 Petteri Nokelainen
    18 Rob Schremp
    19 Jeff Schultz
    20 Alexandre Picard
    21 David Booth
    21 Boris Valabik
    22 Michael Funk
    23 Devan Dubnyk
    24 Carl Soderberg
    25 A.J. Thelen
    26 Andy Rogers
    27 Evan McGrath
    28 Roman Voloshenko
    29 Marek Schwarz
    30 Bryan Bickell
     
  5. Jeffrey

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    1 Evgeni Malkin
    2 Alexander Ovechkin
    3 Andrej Meszaros
    4 Alexander Radulov
    5 Wojtek Wolski
    6 Ladislav Smid
    7 Rostislav Olesz
    8 Travis Zajac
    9 Mike Green
    10 Drew Stafford
    11 Cam Barker
    12 Chris Campoli
    13 Andrew Ladd
    14 Al Montoya
    15 Blake Wheeler
    16 Carl Soderberg
    17 Boris Valabik
    18 Dustin Boyd
    19 Justin Pogge
    20 Karri Ramo
    21 David Krejci
    22 Rob Schremp
    23 Ryan Callahan
    24 David Booth
    25 Blake Comeau
    26 Mikhail Grabovski
    27 Alexandre Picard
    28 Jeff Schultz
    29 Marek Schwarz
    30 Alexei Emelin

    HM:
    David Bolland
    Andrej Sekera
    Mark Mancari
    Cory Schneider
    Bryan Bickell
    Brandon Dubinsky
    Dmitry Vorobiev
    Kyle Chipchura
    Lauri Korpikoski
     
  6. AnThGrt

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    Malkin infront of Ovechkin. Expected someone to do it, but care to explain? Also has Tukonen dropped that far? When was around he was supposed to be top 6 pick and was considered a steal at #11. Has had a few injury issues but has been doing pretty solid, definately solid enough not to drop out of the first round
     
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    I'm not sure Mike Green would drop out of the first round, especially with hindsight.
     
  8. TaiMaiShu

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    Too early to tell. A lot of changes occur only because they are playing right now.
     
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    Alex Goligoski

    Goligoski would DEFINITELY go in the first round of the 2004 draft.
     
  10. PanthersRule96

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    Nice to see David Booth getting some respect. Not that he'll ever be a bigtime scorer but he definitely was a nice pick. Ovechkin goes one, not too much changes at the top IMO.
     
  11. Tony_S*

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    Meszaros should jump up a lot, and i don't have the time to do the full draft...
     
  12. boredmale

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    If your doing it on the basis of what have you done in the NHL so far i would agree, but long term Campoli is destined to be a bottom pairing defenseman with upside of a good #4 guy. While he probably will have a better career then many of the guys on your list, most of them have way more upside then him and i would rank higher. It should also be noted Campoli was passed over the 2 previous drafts so he is 2 years older then mos of them as well.
     
  13. Stealth JD

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    good to see soderberg getting some love, considering he's yet to play in North America, was too old for the most recent WJC, plays on the last place team in the Elitserien, and recently was injured. He's got a chance to be a real good one in the NHL and one of the better players chosen in the entire draft....top 10 possibly.
     
  14. Freaky Habs Fan

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    Yeah, same thing for Kyle Chipchura. Long term, I believe that he should be in the first round. He will never be a big time point producer, but he will most likely become a captain of a NHL team while giving some character and defensive play to the Habs.
     
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    Schneider behind such All-Stars as Emelin, Schremp, and Comeau?
     
  16. Bam Beet*

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    What has Radulov done to warrant being ahead of Wolski?
     
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    1. alexander ovechkin
    2. evgeni malkin
    3. andrej maszaros
    4. wojtek wolski
    5. alexander radulov
    6. cam barker
    7. rostislav olesz
    8. andrew ladd
    9. ladislav smid
    10. travis zajac
    11. al montoya
    12. drew stafford
    13. justin pogge
    14. roman voloshenko
    15. dustin boyd
    16. rob schremp
    17. mike green
    18. cory schneider
    19. alexandre picard
    20. petteri nokelainen
    21. alex goligoski
    22. marek schwarz
    23. thomas greiss
    24. kyle chipchura
    25. devan dubnyk
    26. jeff schultz
    27. carl soderberg
    28. enver lisin
    29. karri ramo
    30. lukas kaspar
     
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    Well, Wolski has more points, but Radulov has shown us that he will be an NHL player. Because of that, I don't see nothing wrong with putting him in front of Wolski if the guy thinks that Radu has more upside...
     
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    It's interesting, because some people thought that aside from Barker, that Meszaros was the best defenseman in the draft, I originally tabbed him #10 overall, but I was in that camp. Now everyone has him as the 1st or 2nd defenseman taken :sarcasm:
     
  20. Jeffrey

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    meszaros was really high on mckeens and iss ranking.
    He was also the only player outside ovechkin to have played with his country world cup team.
    I was surprised to see him drop past 15 !
     
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    Mark my words, in 3-5 years all of you redoing this draft will have Dubnyk at least in the top 10 if not higher.
     
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    1. Ovechkin
    2. Malkin
    3. Wolski
    4. Meszaros
    5. Radulov
    6. Zajac
    7. Olesz
    8. Barker
    9. Green
    10. Ladd
    11. Stafford
    12. Smid
    13. Campoli
    14. Boyd
    15. Montoya
    16. Edler
    17. Soderberg
    18. Goligoski
    19. Santorelli
    20. Sekera
    21. Greiss
    22. Tukonen
    23. Brouwer
    24. Grabovsky
    25. Walter
    26. Schremp
    27. Schwarz
    28. Wheeler
    29. Picard
    30. Krejci
     
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    I find it rather peculiar that people are putting Grabovski in the first round, but leaving Chipchura off their lists. I guess it just goes to show how people value offense and upside more than anything else in a prospect. Personally, I would take Chipchura over Grabovski without blinking an eye. Easy, easy choice.
     
  24. Jeffrey

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    i never liked chipchura and nevell will , unless he scores like the stanley cup game final goal..
    he's slow footed without any offense.
    He might have character and good defensive play but I would definately take the dynamite offensive wizzard in grabovski over him.
    take note that im also a habs fans !
     
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    How is Cory Schneider dropping on some people's lists? Having taken the time to see all the first round goalies and Pogge live, I would say that Schneider is the best goalie taken. I would even say that its not really all that close either.
     

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