Jason MacIsaac
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Or injuries while not making team USA. That could hurt him, speaking as a fan of Sauer also.Ignorance has forced you to boot Michael Sauer out I see.
Or injuries while not making team USA. That could hurt him, speaking as a fan of Sauer also.Ignorance has forced you to boot Michael Sauer out I see.
No...top goaltender prospects seem to be a dime a dozen..how many actually turn out to be impact stars on teams.Seeing as how Tuuka Rask is widely believed to be the best goaltending prospect in the world shouldn't he move into the top 5 at the very least?
No...top goaltender prospects seem to be a dime a dozen..how many actually turn out to be impact stars on teams.
Hard to say but I just don't see need to draft a goatlender top 5...you can get a real impact player in that spot. Goaltenders are hit or miss. Some teams are just that desperate to improve their luck between the pipes.you honestly think if the draft was done over that Rask would make it out of the top 10?
Hard to say but I just don't see need to draft a goatlender top 5...you can get a real impact player in that spot. Goaltenders are hit or miss. Some teams are just that desperate to improve their luck between the pipes.
Top 5 goaltenders in the leagueHard to say but I just don't see need to draft a goatlender top 5...you can get a real impact player in that spot. Goaltenders are hit or miss. Some teams are just that desperate to improve their luck between the pipes.
I'd say they are neck and neck in terms of goaltending prospects but in a couple of years a guy like Pavelec or Quick could end up being the stars in the NHL. Very hit or miss.point taken but if Price is going to be there Rask should be as well IMO
It's funny when people use this statement to defend a position, then refuse to accept the same statement when someone else tries to defend their position. Example: go read any thread *****ing about the officiating - when I point out that people have no idea how tough it is until you try it, people go berserk screaming that it's not that tough and that anyone should be able to do it ... but they aren't about to go try themselves, they don't need to try it to know how tough it is. In fact, they'll argue that because they have no experience officiating, it actually makes them more of an expert on how to call a game than someone who has 5, 7, 10, 15, 20 years of experience. It's the only time I've ever seen where having a complete lack of experience or understanding how to do a job is better in evaluating the work someone else does performing that job.For the doubters, why just not put up your rankings instead of criticizing the only guy with enough courage to go at it?
It's funny when people use this statement to defend a position, then refuse to accept the same statement when someone else tries to defend their position. Example: go read any thread *****ing about the officiating - when I point out that people have no idea how tough it is until you try it, people go berserk screaming that it's not that tough and that anyone should be able to do it ... but they aren't about to go try themselves, they don't need to try it to know how tough it is. In fact, they'll argue that because they have no experience officiating, it actually makes them more of an expert on how to call a game than someone who has 5, 7, 10, 15, 20 years of experience. It's the only time I've ever seen where having a complete lack of experience or understanding how to do a job is better in evaluating the work someone else does performing that job.
Will I put together any kind of list to re-do the 2005 draft? No - because I have neither the time nor the interest. Never have, never will. I also have no idea how, just 19 months after the draft, one should objectively put together such a list. However, it's not difficult to see a list someone else put together and see where it has huge flaws - especially when you recall hearing about the upside one guy was supposed to have or see what a kid has done for the last year and a half, and see him knocked down the list behind some other kid who made the NHL for a couple games or looked great at the most recent WJC's.
God I hate the WJC's
Go back and re-read your original question and my response, and see if it clicks. If not, maybe someone else will explain it.First of all, reffing has nothing to do with this???
Yeah, that's part of it. But, I'm also looking at a guy who isn't showing a marked improvement in his numbers. It's not even so much of a matter of him being disappointing, as it is a number of player chosen below him showing quicker/more dramatic improvement.Ignorance has forced you to boot Michael Sauer out I see.
Some of the guys dropping aren't so much a commentary on their weaknesses or anything, as much as it is players around them making significant strides.and how did Hanzal drop?
Cogliano was a player rated on the outside of the first round based mainly on the fact that he was so small. The way the new NHL rules have actually panned out makes a player like Cogliano, a shifty, ridiculously fast pivot much more valuable than in years past. He had a good freshman season and is on a better than a point per game tear this season. His game of speed and passing is going make him invaluable at the NHL level.RE: Downie and Cogliano
Heh, you should've seen the first rankings, somehow I misplaced Oshie and had him fall down into the second round. Oshie honestly fell through the cracks on my list, so I wedged him back in wherever he fit. He probably should be a bit higher.T.J. Oshie went 21-24-45 in his freshman year playing 2nd line on a deep UND team while Andrew Cogliano was only 12-16-28 in 5 fewer games at Michigan; this year, Cogliano is 15-11-26 playing 2nd lineon a deep UM team while Oshie is 6-14-20 playing a lot of 1st line and having played through a broken thumb. You drop Oshie from 24th to 29th, while Cogliano jumps from 25th to 7th. I'd really like to see the reasoning behind this.
Because of the completely arbitrary way that this was done, you can't really compare where defencemen are ranked Vs. forwards. Like I said, I ranked the forwards, then I ranked the defencemen, then I plunked them down. So I'm not saying Chorney is better than Oshie, I'm saying if the team was that concerned with taking a defencemen and not taking the best player available, they might go with Chorney over Oshie.I'd also like to see some kind of explanation why Taylor Chorney is ahead of Oshie, too - because that one is equally as baffling.
LeTang has already showed he can play and compete at the NHL level. That's why he's ahead of guys like Parent, Kindl, et al.LeTang at 14?
Franson at 79 just might be the steal of the draft. He didn't get to show as much of his game at the WJC as he could have, but Franson is a dynamic puck-mover. As great of players as Shea Weber and Ryan Suter along the Predators blueline are, it will ultmately be Cody Franson who is going to run the Nashville power play for the next ten years. The only defencemen in this draft with (arguably) bigger offensive upside than Franson, are Bourdon, Johnson, and maybe Kindl.Franzen at 26?
Again, he's a techinically sound player who is improving year in, year out. His stock was rising and thought to be a steal before the WJC, the WJC just cemented it. He was arguably the most consistent forward on a very impressive Canada squad.Tom Pyatt at 23?
Granted. But, it's not like there are multiple chances to see some of these players in a given year.I think you're putting way too much stock in the recent WJC with some of these guys.
Go back and re-read your original question and my response, and see if it clicks. If not, maybe someone else will explain it.
Go back and re-read your original question and my response, and see if it clicks. If not, maybe someone else will explain it.
Why doesn't he play in the Wolves top line ? Just curiousI´m also curious why everybody drops Bourret out of the 1st round. He had some adjustment problems to the AHL but he has 8g and 16a in 34 games so far without playing in the Wolves top line
Why putting up a great performance at the WJC means squat for long-term NHL success: ...