Ratings are pathetic

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  1. I read today that the ratings on OLN are drawing a 0.3 share, or 190,000 people!

    What will Bettman say about that?
     
  2. kdb209

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    Thats actually better than the '03-'04 ESPN2 numbers.

    http://www.andrewsstarspage.com/NHL-Business/NHL-TV-Ratings.htm

    Recent ESPN/ESPN 2 Ratings (Regular Season)
    Season Network Rating Network Rating
    2001-02 ESPN 0.49 ESPN2 0.23
    2002-03 ESPN 0.46 ESPN2 0.23
    2003-04 ESPN 0.47 ESPN2 0.24

    And remember, if ESPN did excercise their option, all games would have been only on the Deuce.
     
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    I'm sure he'll respond by announcing immediate expansion to Albuquerque, Austin, New Orleans and Jacksonville.
     
  4. Hire Sather

    Hire Sather Don't punt seasons

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    I could care less about ratings. I love hockey, we all love hockey and if other people don't, screw them.
     
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    I heard OLN is doing a piss poor job with their overall production, that could have something to do with it
     
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    Don't most hockey markets have local broadcasts on local channels, anyway? I wouldn't worry about it.
     
  7. Beauty eh?

    Beauty eh? Not sure if serious.

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    People need to face it....hockey will never be a big draw (TV-wise) in the U.S. We have too much quality programming over here as it is and there's just no room for hockey.

    You know, quality shows like:

    Airline
    Amazing Race
    American Casino
    American Idol
    America's Next Top Model
    Apprentice, The
    Apprentice: Martha Stewart
    Average Joe
    Battle of the Network Reality Stars
    Beauty and the Geek
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    Celebrity Fit Club
    Cowboy U
    The Cut
    Dancing With The Stars
    Dirty Jobs
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    Extreme Fakeover
    Extreme Makeover: Home Edition
    Family Plots
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    Gastineau Girls
    Gene Simmons Rock School
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    Home Delivery
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    Kept
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    The Law Firm
    Made
    Making It Big
    Making The Band
    Meet Mister Mom
    Miami Ink
    Minding The Store
    Miracle Workers
    Miss Seventeen
    My Fair Brady
    Nanny 911
    Party @ The Palms
    Pimp My Ride
    Project Jay
    Power Girls
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    Real Gilligan's Island
    Queer Eye For The Straight Girl
    Queer Eye For The Straight Guy
    Real World Road Rules Challenge
    Run's House
    R U The Girl
    Simple Life
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    So You Think You Can Dance
    Starting Over
    Strip Search
    Super Nanny
    Surreal Life
    Survivor
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    Tommy Lee Goes To College
    Wife Swap



    :shakehead :madfire:
     
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    whoa dude

    I really hope that was a cut&paste

    because you shouldn't waste your time typing out all those shows when you could be watchin' cow ropin' on OLN - yeehaw!
     
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    AMEN! :clap: :clap: :clap:
     
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    The big problem for the NHL in trying to attract a national audience is that they don't get nearly enough playoff games on national TV. A game here and there doesn't capture what is probably the best post season of all major NA sports. The NBA is on ABC, TNT, ESPN, the NFL on Fox and CBS, and MLB on ESPN and Fox(?).

    The NHL is using the next two years to convince someone in the networks that their product has become marketable. NBC, with it's lack of sports content, is the best option. Maybe the deal in place now will set the stage for a better deal down the road. If you were a network exec would you enter a big money deal with a league headed for a work stoppage? No way.
     
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    Yes, I too love hockey but we all don't love hockey. If this league doesn't make money (one way to do that is with television contracts) then the game will never be properly promoted or produced (see OLN...)
     
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    The Lightning's ratings are up 130%, Im sure its the same in other markets with teams.

    OLN has sucked producing games and have blacked out a few games already so I wouldn't look too deep into those ratings.
     
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    So far OLN has put on a total of about 6 games this season. For the exception of opening night, these games have been on Mondays (against MNF) and Tuesday nights. Not the best of nights, especially when there are other "water cooler" shows on the other channels. Give it time, OLN's production should hit a stride at some point... I hope. Eventually they'll find a good mix of personalities for its desk jockeys and eliminate that wide blue and red score bar across the bottom of the screen.

    So I am going to give them a shot, for a few months, before I begin to pass judgement. Pierre McGuire has already taken Neil Smith's chair, not sure if it's permanent. At least Pierre makes you want to punch something (usually him) instead of boring you to sleep only to be awoken by a Bill Clement jab at the Rangers or the start of the next period. In all, I think Smith's commentary is actually quality material, just needs to work on delivery.
     
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    Key to this whole thing with OLN is 0.3 is a big ratings increase for them.
     
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    I also would be more interested in how the local ratings are doing. Sure, now and then I enjoy watching a national game, but with an 80 game season more nights than not my team will be playing somewhere. Sorry but most nights I prefer watching my team. Football is hardly comparable as you get one game a week over 16 weeks so are not inundated. Hence the large audiences. Basketball and baseball are more comparable. Though not in my market of Pittsburgh where we have no basketball or baseball team so can pick and choose what game we want to watch.
     
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    RangerBoy TRUST THE PROCESS

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    What is wrong with the deuce?The same people who produced the NHL on ESPN produced the NHL on ESPN2 which is located near ESPN on most cable and satellite systems.OLN has fewer subscribers.OLN is starting to remind me of the failed NHL on Sportschannel America experiment in the early 1990's :shakehead
     
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    Here is the difference. When red wing games were on espn/espn2, they were blacked out in Detroit and we had to watch our local broadcast. I'm pretty sure it was like that in every market. With OLN, nothing is blacked out. The ratings would have been higher if the local markets were allowed to watch their team. Also, it tells me that people want to watch hockey this year but they don't know where the heck its on and what time its on. At least with ESPN, we all watch it and we see the promos. The NHL were better off taking half the money and going to a powerhouse like ESPN instead of the hunting channel.
     
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    why doesnt the nhl split tv coverage with espn and OLN?
    espn does 15 teams oln takes the other half?
     
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    I think we have already established that NFL style TV arrangements wont work for the NHL.

    Splitting the national cable rights likely will not see the NHL get any more money, and likely will not see OLN or ESPN gain higher ratings, therefore there is nothing to be gained from such a plan.
     
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    I thought that now the local sports networks were blacked out for OLN games giving them even more of an advantage. Or do local networks still broadcast the same games as OLN?
     
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    I *think* they do both. For sure, they have exclusive games on Monday's which are not available anywhere else. I know this becuase my streak of attending or watching 690 consecutive Wings games will come to an end Monday in Columbus.
     
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    Just do what i;m gonna do, head to a bar. Or maybe i'll try and steal my neighbors cable before then. :D
     
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    Good US ratings + Hockey getting popular in the US = bad for Canadian hockey teams
     
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