Rate a rival prospects upside/probability.

Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by leafaholix*, Jan 18, 2005.

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  1. leafaholix*

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    Take HF.com's system.

    You can rate at most 2 prospects from a rival team, preferably a prospect from a rival NHL team (state the team name, some may not have an idea what team the player belongs to).
     
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    Flames fan here

    Oilers - Rob Schremp - 8C

    Canucks - Ryan Kesler - 7B
     
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    Calgary Flames

    Dion Phaneuf
    9 - A

    Kris Chuko
    7.5 - B
     
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    :habs

    Christopher Higgins: 7B (6A)
    Tomas Plekanec: 6B
     
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    Kirill Koltsov 8D

    Ryan Kesler 7.5C

    Matt Violin 0F
     
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    yikes... if we used ur scale of measurement id hate to see where the best leaf prospects stand...
     
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    How is Kesler a C?
     
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    Ya, no doubt. This is Kesler, he is not a project whatsoever. Kesler is about as sure of a thing as it gets when it comes to a prospect. If the guy's AHL scoring doesn't translate to the NHL he will have a long career as a heart and soul, two way 3rd liner. The type of player every NHL team needs to win.
     
  12. 7.5 c is hell of alot better then plain 7.

    Dion Phaneuf 9

    Vojtec Volski 7.5
     
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    Your description is pretty fair. The problem is, it does sound loosely like a 7.5 C.

    More accurately, your description would be a 7B, although you didn't specify how much you think his scoring might translate.

    Kesler, IMO, is more of a 7C, so I actually think the original poster was a tiny bit generous.

    Ratings from 5.5 to 7.5, and letters from B to D, are all reasonable (if not accurate) to describe this player, IMO.
     
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    Ryan Kesler 7.5C
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    Because he's the Flame prospect I've seen the most:

    Chucko 6.5B
     
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    Kyle Wellwood: 8C
    Carlo Colaiacova: 7.5B

    Sens
    Antoine Vermette: 7A
    Andrej Meszaros: 8B

    Bruins
    Brad Boyes: 6B
    Mark Stuart: 8C
     
  18. leafaholix*

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    My ratings suggest...

    Higgins: Potential is a 2nd liner, should reach it, could drop to 3rd liner
    Plekanec: Potential is 3rd liner, should reach it, could drop to 4th liner

    Plekanec's rating may be a bit low when you look at his AHL numbers, but I've seen him quite a few times and have come away impressed that he'll likely find himself in the NHL one day, but not as a top 6 forward. He's kind of like Robert Reichel, does some things well, but lacks a physical game and isn't great at anything in particular.
     
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    Glad to see that some of us know how to use the ratings system.



    :shakehead

    Well, I've worked in retail, so i'm used to explaining things to people like you.

    Let me lay out for you what 7.5C means. The 7.5 means he has the potential to be a very good second line forward(what can I say, i'm biased towards american prospects), and the C means that you multiply his potential rating by 80%.


    7.5 x .8 = 6


    So he is guaranteed to be a third line forward. Got it?
     
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    8.0C = Kostitsyn (currently a 9.0C)
    7.5A = Perezhogin (currently 8.5C)
    7.0B = Chris Higgins (currently 8.0B)
    7.0C = Plekanec (currently 7.5B)
    6.0A = Chipchura (currently 7.0A)

    The letter grades are not supposed to be used to make unreasonable predictions and then be able to back track on them when (not if) they fail to come true.

    If they were, I'd petition our mod to make Teemu Sainomaa (couldn't make it as a 4th liner in the Finnish Elite League) a 10.0 Z

    Where 10.0 means that he could be a record breaking hockey player and Z means "if the NHL uses replacement players... composed entirely of Girl Scouts.... who have never seen ice before.
     
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