Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by WinterLion, Mar 13, 2018.
I think theyre up there. Didn’t sneak them in lmao.
IMO, depth outside the top 10 is nice but not really all that useful. Most of the players outside a team's top 10 will never see NHL ice, let alone make an impact. That's why I usually only consider the top 10-12 players in an organization, when comparing teams. Go beyond that and you're really just guessing/hoping.
If you look at Vancouver's top 10, they're definitely top 5 if not #1.
The Canucks talent has a hard, hard drop-off after like, Demko/Gaudette.
Heiskanen is quite the addition though, really excited for when those two are on the Stars.
Detroit's top 10 probably includes
Doesn't deserve to be in the top 20, I don't think
Sprong + Bellerive are the only two promising Penguins' prospects.
Yeah that's an accurate list, and it's pretty sad for a team trying to rebuild. There's some hope in there, but not enough.
If it's u23, I think we might be a little better off- we add Larkin who is 21. Even then, I don't think we're top 20 as everyone else will probably have at least 1 good u23 player too. I don't think Larkin moves us up the list far if at all.
what happened to svechnikov? I remembered he was my pick for the Canucks in 2015. Was really disappointed that day when Detroit took him 5 picks before we could snag him. Needless to say I'm thankful I wasn't picking for the Canucks that day.
Blues have a great prospect pool
Walman I’m a big fan of but haven’t kept track of him recently
They also have Thomas, Kyrou, Kostin, Thompson, Foley, Husso, Blais, Toropchenko all guys with good potential. It’s deep and also has high end talent in every position
As a Canucks fan I don’t think our depth is that great, aside from Pettersson who’s the best prospect in the world (drafted) I don’t see much that’s different from other teams?
Demko looks fantastic I agree but Im pretty sure every team in the NHL has prospect like Kole Lind and Adam Gaudette.
The defensive depth is absolutely horrible too.
As I said, our talent drops off drastically after Gaudette. Hobey Baker winners/finalists get hyped all the time, so we can save the Hobey Baker award posts. Ben Hutton was once a finalist too. I like Gaudette but he’s not close to Pettersson.
Every other team has a Lind/Gadjovich/DiPietro/Lockwood but don’t tell our fanbase that - touchy subject for those who believe all of those players will be something.
Juolevi is our best defensive prospect so that says enough right there about the future of our backend.
It's the quantity of players the Canucks have in the top 50ish NHL affiliated prospects that make them near the best if not top.
So it's like a quantity AND quality depending on how you rank prospects.
Thomas and Kyrou overrated their game wont translate to nhl success. Its too bad too because the Blues are in such a bad spot atm they NEED those future guys but just wont cut it
Where would you have Dahlen? He seems like the best skater in our pool.
Hawks (unsigned) prospect ranking:
1. Henri Jokiharju (D)
2. Dylan Sikura (LW)
3. Ian Mitchell (D)
4. Evan Barratt (C)
5. Tim Soderlund (LW)
6. Chad Krys (D)
7. Blake Hillman (D)
8. Joni Tuulola (D)
9. Andrei Altybarmakyan (RW)
10. Ivan Nalimov (G)
Probably have Gaudette/Dahlen together. Really not sure about Dahlen, would've liked to see what he could've done in the SHL this season. He has looked good at least, but again, don't think Dahlen is close to Pettersson.
Then a huge drop off in talent IMO.
I complied a list of prospects, from every team, that is comparable to Kole Lind. This is to show other teams have similar prospects comparable to Kole Lind - most of these prospects, were picked very, very late (unlike Lind) so that is to be taken into consideration before we nitpick a player with 1.27 pts/game to Lind's 1.62 pts/game.
Kole Lind - Drafted 33rd overall, 2017 - 1.62 pts/game (1998 born)
ANA - F Maxime Comtois - Drafted 50th overall, 2017 - 1.55 pts/game (1999 born)
ARI - F Tyler Steenbergen - Drafted 128th overall, 2017 - 1.85 pts/game (1998 born)
BOS -F Jack Studnicka - Drafted 53rd overall, 2017 - 1.06 pts/game (1999 born)
BUF - F Cliff Pu - Drafted 69th overall, 2016 - 1.27 pts/game (1998 born)
CGY - F Dillon Dube - Drafted 56th overall, 2016 -1.50 pts/game (1998 born)
CAR - F Stelio Mattheos - Drafted 73rd overall, 2017 - 1.32 pts/game (1999 born)
CHI - No comparable, have hardly selected from WHL/OHL/QMJHL
COL - D Connor Timmins - Drafted 32nd overall, 2017 - 1.12 pts/game (1998 born)
CBJ - F Vitaly Abramov - Drafted 65th overall, 2016 - 1.87 pts/game (1998 born)
DAL - F Jason Robertson - Drafted 39th overall, 2017 - 1.30 pts/game (1999 born)
DET - No comparable
EDM - F Kirill Maksimov - Drafted 146th overall, 2017 - 1.23 pts/game (1999 born)
FLA - F Aleksi Heponiemi - Drafted 40th overall, 2017 - 2.16 pts/game (1999 born)
LAK - F Jaret Anderson-Dolan - Drafted 41st overall, 2017 - 1.33 pts/game (1999 born)
VGK - D Nicolas Hague - Drafted 34th overall, 2017 - 1.15 pts/game (1998 born)
MIN - F Dmitry Sokolov - Drafted 196th overall, 2016 - 1.47 pts/game (1998 born)
MTL - No comparable
NSH - No comparable, have hardly selected from WHL/OHL/QMJHL
NJD - No comparable
NYI - D David Quenneville - Drafted 200th, 2016 - 1.17 pts/game (1998 born)
NYR - F Ty Ronning - Drafted 201st overall, 2016 - 1.20 pts/game (1997 born)
NYR - F Brett Howden - Drafted 27th overall, 2016 - 1.50 pts/game (1998 born)
OTT - F Drake Batherson - Drafted 121st overall, 2017 - 1.53 pts/game (1998 born)
PHI - F Morgan Frost - Drafted 27th overall, 2017 - 1.67 pts/game (1999 born)
PIT - No comparable, have hardly selected from WHL/OHL/QMJHL
SJ - No comparable
STL - F Jordan Kyrou - Drafted 35th overall, 2016 - 1.96 pts/game (1998 born)
TB - F Boris Katchouk - Drafted 44th overall, 2016 - 1.48 pts/game (1998 born)
TB - F Taylor Raddysh - Drafted 58th overall, 2016 - 1.45 pts/game (1998 born)
TB - F Otto Somppi - Drafted 206th overall, 2016 - 1.42 pts/game (1998 born)
TOR - No comparable, prospects from 2016 have mostly turned pro
WSH - No comparable
WPG - F Skyler McKenzie - Drafted 198th overall, 2017 - 1.20 pts/game (1998 born)
All these players are progressing very well.
So, I guess we can say other teams truly do have prospects comparable to ours opposed to what people seem to think.
He had a strong rookie year in the AHL, this year he’s had injuries but started getting better(healthy) the last ~20 games. Can’t write him off just yet.
That's fair but then you're not worried about his size unlike some on that list. What matters from Nuck fans standpoint is that Lind currently ranks as our 5-6 best prospect. THAT is the difference from past years. E.g., his numbers are right up there with Hodgson who was a darling prospect with early 1st round pedigree, WJHC heroics... and skating issues.
Soon to be:
I hope. The play by play for Dahlin and Dahlen would be fun.
Well perhaps the fanbase overrates some of those as well.
I also would like to think that Jaret Anderson-Dolan is our 6th best prospect.
1. Casey Mittelstadt
2. Brendan Guhle
3. Alex Nylander
4. Rasmus Asplund
5. Linus Ullmark
6. Will Borgen
7. Cliff Pu
8. Marcus Davidsson
9. CJ Smith
10. Victor Olofsson
Justin Bailey, Nick Baptiste, Hudson Fasching, Danny O'Regan
Having Mittelstadt and Asplund in the pipeline, because Eichel and ROR just are not enough. Riiiiight.
I would say carter hart is easily a top 20 prospect.
In terms of depth i know the flyers list goes about 25 deep of players with chancees to play at the nhl level. But most of our high level guys seems to have graduated. Patrick, Sanheim, Lindblom.....that is this year alone.