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RANKING NHL TEAMS PROSPECT DEPTH

Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by WinterLion, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. WinterLion

    WinterLion Registered User

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    Hey all! I know this is a very hard thing to do and very subjective, but have there been any recent attempts to rank teams prospect depth? Or under 23 players?
     
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    Kings, bare last.

    That's one already.



    Goal;

    Cal Petersen (most promising)
    Cole Kehler
    Matthew Villalta

    Defense;

    Kale Clague
    Michael Anderson
    Markus Philips
    Alex Lintuniemi

    Forwards;

    Michael Amadio (3rd line center)
    Gabe Vilardi (1st line center)
    Jaret Anderson-Dolan (2nd line center)
    Austin Wagner (3rd/4th line winger)
    Mikey Eyssimont (3rd/4th line winger)
    Drake Rymsha (3rd/4th line center)
     
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  3. Fixed to Ruin

    Fixed to Ruin Come wit it now!

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    No, I think the Oilers are worst than the Kings.
     
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    Montreal are worst
     
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  5. Elias Pettersson

    Elias Pettersson 177 lbs? Or is it 77Kg?

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    Canucks and Philly top of the pile
     
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    I'm of the crowd thinks that Vancouver is barely in the top 5. There are cases for quite a few teams to be up there.

    Philly though, absolutely deserves to be up there.
     
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    I'd say Rangers moved up to slightly lover than middle of the pack - maybe 17-19?

    A couple of good pieces. Big improvement considering where we were 2 years ago.
     
  8. Lays

    Lays Vitaly Swagtsov

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    I feel like we’re already top 10
    Exactly one year ago we were in contention for dead last

    Chytil-beast.
    Andersson-also beast.
    Shesty-dominant in KHL
    Howden-safe player to become a solid middle 6 C, could possibly be more
    Deangelo-his offensive numbers haven’t looked great but that’s because he wasn’t really given PP time until recently, he’s been really good defensively for us as of late which is surprising
    Pionk-kid is a 2 way beast and will be a regular next year for us, I see him topping out as a top 4 dman for us
    Hajek-I really like him but Gorton likes him even more, has said he thinks Hajek will be a top defenseman in the league
    Rykov-if we get him to come over (which we definitely should) he’ll be a beast, Orlov-like dman
    Georgiev-.930 save percentage throughout 4 1/2 games with us, in all games he faced 35+ shots except that 1/2 game. Only 22
    Lindgren-solid NHL potential, I’ve always been really high on him and was a secondary /tertiary asset I wanted from the Bruins in any trade
    Lettieri-looked really good in his NHL stint, still young and has a great motor, can be great bottom 6er with offense
    Ronning-dominate WHL season
    Barron-2017 6th round draft pick, great in the NCAA for us, a lot of upside in him. Big skilled C
    Sean Day-kid has been excellent this year, high upside
    Virta- 2017 7th rounder, 40 points in 58 Liiga games
    Bigras-reclamation project

    Add in the 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 3 3rds we have, we’ll be in contention for the best post-draft

    Before the draft last season our best prospects were guys such as (no order)
    Shestyorkin
    Graves
    Nieves
    Kovacs
    Gropp
    Sean Day
    Huska
    Zborovsky
     
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  9. Dr Jan Itor

    Dr Jan Itor Registered User

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    No idea where they'd rank, but for reference, here is Minnesota's top 7ish:

    Kunin
    Kaprizov
    Greenway
    Sokolov
    Belpedio
    Lodnia
    Kahkonen

    Add Eriksson Ek if doing the U23 thing.
     
  10. STLBLUES44

    STLBLUES44 The real KLIM SHADY

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    I’d be hard pressed to not put STL in the top 10: some high end Fwds, two possible high end D and a High end G w/ some promising specs who’ve been producing. This isn’t exact order but relatively from highest to lowest quality IMO minus goalies at the bottom.

    Robert Thomas
    Vince Dunn
    Jordan Kyrou
    Klim Kostin
    Tage Thompson
    Erik Foley
    Jake Walman
    Jordan Schmaltz
    Nolan Stevens
    Niko Mikkola
    Adam Musil
    Tanner Kaspick
    Alexei Toropchenko
    David Noel
    Austin Poganski

    Ville Husso(G)
    Evan Fitzpatrick(G
     
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    settinguptheplay Classless Canuck Fan

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    Was my first thought too. But the question is one of depth and I don't think Vancouver has much depth. Talent at the top end is very good and in the argument for best overall. But our depth is still junk. Just look at our D prospect. Juolevi and ....
     
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    Avs should be somewhere in the top 10 for prospects; even though they've had a lot of graduates this season. Makar, Meloche & Timmins is a trio of blueline prospects I'd put up against anyone's. The forward prospects lack star power...especially now that Jost has graduated...but there's more good top 9ers still in the pipeline with Shvyryov, Greer, Bowers, Kamenev; and some solid bottom 6 prospects with Toninato, Beaudin, Morrison, Henry.

    Including u23 NHLers pushes us into the top 5 because that adds MacKinnon, Rantanen, Jost, Zadorov, Girard, Compher, and depending on how you define it Kerfoot (turned 23 during the season)

    ...let's just not talk about the goalies...
     
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    If you take into account u23 and prospects together they aren't even top 20

    Just prospects, they are top 5.
     
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    For non-graduated prospects, Vancouver, Philly are top 3-5. A bunch of teams could be argued for 3-18 or so.

    Before this year's draft (Pettersson, Lind), I was speculative of Vancouver being clearly above several teams...even though they had good draftees like Gaudette, Demko.....but now they are unquestionably near the top.
     
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    Our top prospect is the best drafted prospect in hockey and a top 3 non NHL player right now.

    And as for depth, our #5 ranked prospect is leading the NCAA in scoring and favourite for hobey baker. Kole Lind, who is scoring more than Cody Glass and the majority of first rounders in the chl. He doesn't even crack our top 5. So Vancouver is definitely near the top
     
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    With the addition of Heiskanen and Robertson we definitely moved up, but probably not a whole lot. Our prospect depth is not anything special. Maybe ranks in the 15-20 range
     
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    ARZ,PHI, LVK, MIN,FLA,VAN,STL,NYR, ANA(low key good) off the top of my head. No particular order.
     
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    Is this a prospect ranking? Or U-23 and under ranking? Very different things.
     
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    Flames are pretty good.

    Dube
    Valimaki
    Andersson
    Fox
    Mangiapane

    Would be our top 5. Most publications have Fox/Valimaki/Andersson/Dube as top 50 prospects.
    Then we got some other decent guys Kylington, Gawdin, Phillips, Ruzicka, Gillies, Parsons, Rittich, and Joly who could turn into something.
     
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    Best???
    Right now I really don't think anyone can say definitively, I mean philly doesnt have a top 20 prospect, so I have no idea why people are labelling them the best.

    Worst??
    Im going to say San Jose or Pittsburgh
     
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  22. WinterLion

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    Good question. I think it's two questions. I was actually hoping someone had actually done the work on this and there were some articles that could be pointed to (besides the hockey news)...
     
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    Etteduag ot Reseob Kesaj ot Drassarb

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    Liked how you snuck the Blues in there like we wouldnt notice :laugh:

    :shakehead
     
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    I think I'd still have Walman over Foley, personally. And Sammy Blais has gotta be in there somewhere!

    Not sure how it stacks up compared to other pools, but it's really exciting to have a strong group (and what seems like decent depth) of prospects coming up in the next few years.
     
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    I would agree with this. High end forwards look alright but defense is pretty abysmal. Also, not many players from their farm team that's able to step up and be serviceable depth. It doesn't help that the Canucks have traditionally traded a lot of their picks away in their failed accelerated rebuild attempt. You'd think that a perennial bottom feeder would have been able to acquire a higher volume of prospect depth.
     

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