Rank these young guns

Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by the Maniac, Aug 9, 2006.

  1. the Maniac

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    If you'd be so kind to rank (with reasoning) the following "random" players all of which are under the age of 25... curious to see the consensus as to their potential in the eyes of the knowledgeable HF Boarders :yo: :

    PLAYER TEAM AGE
    Steve Bernier SJ 21
    Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
    Christopher Higgins MTL 23
    Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
    Mikko Koivu MIN 23
    Petr Prucha NYR 23
    Alexander Radulov NSH 20
    Robbie Schremp EDM 20
    Alexander Steen TOR 22
    Raffi Torres EDM 24

    I've listed them in alphabetical order with their current clubs and their respective ages as of today... They're all touted to be top 6 forwards with great offensive-potential... I realize that there are "non-prospects" mixed in but I'd like to see the comparisons between them and where they all stand.

    Thanks for your thoughts and considerations! :handclap: :clap:
     
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    All around:
    Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
    Raffi Torres EDM 24
    Steve Bernier SJ 21
    Alexander Steen TOR 22
    Mikko Koivu MIN 23
    Alexander Radulov NSH 20
    Christopher Higgins MTL 23
    Robbie Schremp EDM 20
    Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
    Petr Prucha NYR 23
     
  3. Form and Substance

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    Wow Prucha at the bottom? I guess results don't mean squat.
     
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    Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
    Steve Bernier SJ 21
    Alexander Steen TOR 22
    Alexander Radulov NSH 20
    Christopher Higgins MTL 23
    Petr Prucha NYR 23
    Raffi Torres EDM 24
    Robbie Schremp EDM 20
    Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
    Mikko Koivu MIN 23
     
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    For who I'd want:
    Alexander Radulov
    Gilbert Brule
    Steve Bernier
    Rob Schremp
    Alex Steen
    Chris Higgins
    Petr Prucha
    Chuck Kobasew
    Raffi Torres
    Mikko Koivu
     
  6. haelwho

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    Notice the ALL AROUND at the top of my list.
     
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    Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
    Alexander Radulov NSH 20
    Steve Bernier SJ 21
    Robbie Schremp EDM 20
    Alexander Steen TOR 22
    Petr Prucha NYR 23
    Raffi Torres EDM 24
    Christopher Higgins MTL 23
    Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
    Mikko Koivu MIN 23

    Ratings Based on Upside, Likelyhood to Reach that upside, and how many years away from doing so. Ranked For Overall Skill.
     
  8. vbet*

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    To be fair, prospects should be broken down into conferences because most don't know much about them.

    I know that kid Prucha is awesome but because of schedules I have never seen him play once. And I can't remember the last time I have seen a Florida game.
     
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    Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
    Robbie Schremp EDM 20
    Steve Bernier SJ 21
    Christopher Higgins MTL 23
    Petr Prucha NYR 23
    Raffi Torres EDM 24
    Alexander Radulov NSH 20
    Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
    Alexander Steen TOR 22
    Mikko Koivu MIN 23
     
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    Forgive my ignorance, but what's the connection between Florida and Petr Prucha ?
     
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    Gilbert Brule
    Chris Higgins
    Alex Steen
    Alexander Radulov
    Steve Bernier
    Petr Prucha
    Rob Schremp
    Mikko Koivu
    Raffi Torres
    Chuck Kobasew
     
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    Purcha and Kobasew ahead of Steen?
     
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    Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
    Steve Bernier SJ 21
    Alexander Radulov NSH 20
    Robbie Schremp EDM 20
    Petr Prucha NYR 23
    Raffi Torres EDM 24
    Alexander Steen TOR 22
    Christopher Higgins MTL 23
    Mikko Koivu MIN 23
    Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
     
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    Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
    Robbie Schremp EDM 20
    Alexander Radulov NSH 20
    Steve Bernier SJ 21
    Raffi Torres EDM 24
    Christopher Higgins MTL 23
    Alexander Steen TOR 22
    Petr Prucha NYR 23
    Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
    Mikko Koivu MIN 23
     
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    Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
    Steve Bernier SJ 21
    Alexander Radulov NSH 20
    Raffi Torres EDM 24
    Petr Prucha NYR 23
    Alexander Steen TOR 22
    Christopher Higgins MTL 23
    Robbie Schremp EDM 20
    Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
    Mikko Koivu MIN 23
     
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    Based strictly on potential. Otherwise Torres, Prucha, Kobasew and Higgins would be on the top.

    Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
    Alexander Radulov NSH 20
    Robbie Schremp EDM 20
    Steve Bernier SJ 21
    Alexander Steen TOR 22
    Raffi Torres EDM 24
    Christopher Higgins MTL 23
    Mikko Koivu MIN 23
    Petr Prucha NYR 23
    Chuck Kobasew CGY 24

    Brule is just amazing and Radulov and Schremp are pretty equal to me, then next class under Brule.

    You will see that the older guys are lower on my list with the exception of Torres. To me Torres is higher because he is more then just goals, he is a hitter, agitator and great skater, better hitter and has a great shot.
     
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    In terms of players that will help a team win a cup (honestly, does anything else matter?), I'll put Higgins, Steen and Brule on top of that list anyday.
     
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    Why Higgins? I understand Brule and Steen but Higgins doesn't really seem to fit in there.
     
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    Gilbert Brule CBJ
    Christopher Higgins MTL
    Alexander Steen TOR
    Steve Bernier SJ
    Alexander Radulov NSH
    Robbie Schremp EDM
    Raffi Torres EDM 24
    Petr Prucha NYR
    Chuck Kobasew CGY
    Mikko Koivu MIN

    higgins was the second best scorer after the olympic :shakehead higgins will be a hell of player
     
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    And Bernier still only had 11 less points in 41 less games.

    .475 ppg for Higgins compared to .69 ppg for Bernier
    We all know Brule's potential
    Radulov tore apart the QMJHL
    Schremp tore apart the OHL
    Prucha scored 30 goals as a rookie
    Steen played a great 2 way game while putting up 45 points

    Higgins was outscored by nearly everybody on this list that played in the NHL this year. Don't get all bent out of shape just because people aren't ranking your favorite teams prospect high enough.
     
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    1 - Gilbert Brule CBJ 19 (Complete offensive package. Excellent leader and clutch performer. Future top line center with unlimited potential. Injuries might lower his ceiling tough.)

    2 - Alexander Radulov NSH 20 (Great skill set. His motor never stops running. Should become a top line winger.)

    3 - Petr Prucha NYR 23 (Tremendous upside. Great finisher with an superior work ethic. Badly needs to bulk up or he will be injured every season. Top six goalscorer with a very high ceiling.)

    4 - Robbie Schremp EDM 20 (Boom or bust type of prospect. Might become an Art Ross contender or a mere power play specialist.)

    5 - Alexander Steen TOR 22 (Top six playmaker with strong defensive play and sound leadership. Wise pick by the leafs.)

    6 - Christopher Higgins MTL 23 (A future captain with 30/30 potential. Good two way player in the making)

    7 - Steve Bernier (A quality prospect who is projected to become a second line scoring power forward.)

    8 - Chuck Kobasew CGY 24 (Has good wheels and on ice awareness. His offensive gifts are obvious and his point totals would probalby be higher on another team. Second line two way speedster with several 50 poinst + seasons ahead of him.)

    9 - Mikko Koivu MIN 23 (Still hasn't reached expectations. Will never be a high scoring center but he should become a good two way pivot with enough upside to play on the second line.)

    10 - Raffi Torres EDM 24 (Two way grinder able to chip in offensively from time to time. Could possibly take his game to an even higher level and become a top power forward, but the odds of this happening grow thinner every year.)
     
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    I'm not a habs homer, but Higgins is indeed a special player. Everyone who watched him on a regular basis this year (us, habs fans and some others too) will all think he's a fantastic player. Higgins is not only about offensive production, he's about great defensive, penality killing, creating chances with his speed, he's about non-stop effort every game and he's got that something special that makes your team win. It's a little bit hard to explain, especially to someone (like you) who thinks that stats are the only predicator of how good a player is.
     
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    I'm a Leafs fan and I believe Higgins definitely belongs in the same category as Steen. They are both excellent two-way players who play sound defence and can chip in offensively.
     
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    Agreed, though it pains me as a habs fan. They're pretty comparable players, imo. Steens a better offensive player, but Higgins is a little better defensively.

    I'd probably rank Steen higher than Higgins, but they're definitely in the same league.
     

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