Rank these young guns

[the Maniac]

If you'd be so kind to rank (with reasoning) the following "random" players all of which are under the age of 25... curious to see the consensus as to their potential in the eyes of the knowledgeable HF Boarders :

PLAYER TEAM AGE
Steve Bernier SJ 21
Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
Christopher Higgins MTL 23
Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
Mikko Koivu MIN 23
Petr Prucha NYR 23
Alexander Radulov NSH 20
Robbie Schremp EDM 20
Alexander Steen TOR 22
Raffi Torres EDM 24

I've listed them in alphabetical order with their current clubs and their respective ages as of today... They're all touted to be top 6 forwards with great offensive-potential... I realize that there are "non-prospects" mixed in but I'd like to see the comparisons between them and where they all stand.

Thanks for your thoughts and considerations!

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[haelwho]

All around:
Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
Raffi Torres EDM 24
Steve Bernier SJ 21
Alexander Steen TOR 22
Mikko Koivu MIN 23
Alexander Radulov NSH 20
Christopher Higgins MTL 23
Robbie Schremp EDM 20
Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
Petr Prucha NYR 23

 

[Form and Substance]

All around:
Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
Raffi Torres EDM 24
Steve Bernier SJ 21
Alexander Steen TOR 22
Mikko Koivu MIN 23
Alexander Radulov NSH 20
Christopher Higgins MTL 23
Robbie Schremp EDM 20
Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
Petr Prucha NYR 23

Wow Prucha at the bottom? I guess results don't mean squat.

 

[DFF]

Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
Steve Bernier SJ 21
Alexander Steen TOR 22
Alexander Radulov NSH 20
Christopher Higgins MTL 23
Petr Prucha NYR 23
Raffi Torres EDM 24
Robbie Schremp EDM 20
Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
Mikko Koivu MIN 23

 

[NashisCash]

For who I'd want:
Alexander Radulov
Gilbert Brule
Steve Bernier
Rob Schremp
Alex Steen
Chris Higgins
Petr Prucha
Chuck Kobasew
Raffi Torres
Mikko Koivu

 

[haelwho]

Wow Prucha at the bottom? I guess results don't mean squat.

Notice the ALL AROUND at the top of my list.

 

[Lars]

Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
Alexander Radulov NSH 20
Steve Bernier SJ 21
Robbie Schremp EDM 20
Alexander Steen TOR 22
Petr Prucha NYR 23
Raffi Torres EDM 24
Christopher Higgins MTL 23
Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
Mikko Koivu MIN 23

Ratings Based on Upside, Likelyhood to Reach that upside, and how many years away from doing so. Ranked For Overall Skill.

 

[vbet*]

To be fair, prospects should be broken down into conferences because most don't know much about them.

I know that kid Prucha is awesome but because of schedules I have never seen him play once. And I can't remember the last time I have seen a Florida game.

 

[Kipper933]

Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
Robbie Schremp EDM 20
Steve Bernier SJ 21
Christopher Higgins MTL 23
Petr Prucha NYR 23
Raffi Torres EDM 24
Alexander Radulov NSH 20
Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
Alexander Steen TOR 22
Mikko Koivu MIN 23

 

[Frolov 6'3]

To be fair, prospects should be broken down into conferences because most don't know much about them.

I know that kid Prucha is awesome but because of schedules I have never seen him play once. And I can't remember the last time I have seen a Florida game.

Forgive my ignorance, but what's the connection between Florida and Petr Prucha ?

 

[SPG]

Forgive my ignorance, but what's the connection between Florida and Petr Prucha ?

 

[Talent Analyst]

Gilbert Brule
Chris Higgins
Alex Steen
Alexander Radulov
Steve Bernier
Petr Prucha
Rob Schremp
Mikko Koivu
Raffi Torres
Chuck Kobasew

 

[TopProspect91]

Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
Robbie Schremp EDM 20
Steve Bernier SJ 21
Christopher Higgins MTL 23
Petr Prucha NYR 23
Raffi Torres EDM 24
Alexander Radulov NSH 20
Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
Alexander Steen TOR 22
Mikko Koivu MIN 23

Purcha and Kobasew ahead of Steen?

 

[Buffalo87]

Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
Steve Bernier SJ 21
Alexander Radulov NSH 20
Robbie Schremp EDM 20
Petr Prucha NYR 23
Raffi Torres EDM 24
Alexander Steen TOR 22
Christopher Higgins MTL 23
Mikko Koivu MIN 23
Chuck Kobasew CGY 24

 

[s7ark]

Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
Robbie Schremp EDM 20
Alexander Radulov NSH 20
Steve Bernier SJ 21
Raffi Torres EDM 24
Christopher Higgins MTL 23
Alexander Steen TOR 22
Petr Prucha NYR 23
Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
Mikko Koivu MIN 23

 

[oil slick]

Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
Steve Bernier SJ 21
Alexander Radulov NSH 20
Raffi Torres EDM 24
Petr Prucha NYR 23
Alexander Steen TOR 22
Christopher Higgins MTL 23
Robbie Schremp EDM 20
Chuck Kobasew CGY 24
Mikko Koivu MIN 23

 

[rigger]

Based strictly on potential. Otherwise Torres, Prucha, Kobasew and Higgins would be on the top.

Gilbert Brule CBJ 19
Alexander Radulov NSH 20
Robbie Schremp EDM 20
Steve Bernier SJ 21
Alexander Steen TOR 22
Raffi Torres EDM 24
Christopher Higgins MTL 23
Mikko Koivu MIN 23
Petr Prucha NYR 23
Chuck Kobasew CGY 24

Brule is just amazing and Radulov and Schremp are pretty equal to me, then next class under Brule.

You will see that the older guys are lower on my list with the exception of Torres. To me Torres is higher because he is more then just goals, he is a hitter, agitator and great skater, better hitter and has a great shot.

 

[Fozz]

In terms of players that will help a team win a cup (honestly, does anything else matter?), I'll put Higgins, Steen and Brule on top of that list anyday.

 

[Buffalo87]

In terms of players that will help a team win a cup (honestly, does anything else matter?), I'll put Higgins, Steen and Brule on top of that list anyday.

Why Higgins? I understand Brule and Steen but Higgins doesn't really seem to fit in there.

 

[gars59]

Gilbert Brule CBJ
Christopher Higgins MTL
Alexander Steen TOR
Steve Bernier SJ
Alexander Radulov NSH
Robbie Schremp EDM
Raffi Torres EDM 24
Petr Prucha NYR
Chuck Kobasew CGY
Mikko Koivu MIN

higgins was the second best scorer after the olympic higgins will be a hell of player

 

[Buffalo87]

Gilbert Brule CBJ
Christopher Higgins MTL
Alexander Steen TOR
Steve Bernier SJ
Alexander Radulov NSH
Robbie Schremp EDM
Raffi Torres EDM 24
Petr Prucha NYR
Chuck Kobasew CGY
Mikko Koivu MIN

higgins was the second best scorer after the olympic higgins will be a hell of player

And Bernier still only had 11 less points in 41 less games.

.475 ppg for Higgins compared to .69 ppg for Bernier
We all know Brule's potential
Radulov tore apart the QMJHL
Schremp tore apart the OHL
Prucha scored 30 goals as a rookie
Steen played a great 2 way game while putting up 45 points

Higgins was outscored by nearly everybody on this list that played in the NHL this year. Don't get all bent out of shape just because people aren't ranking your favorite teams prospect high enough.

 

[Mobbex]

1 - Gilbert Brule CBJ 19 (Complete offensive package. Excellent leader and clutch performer. Future top line center with unlimited potential. Injuries might lower his ceiling tough.)

2 - Alexander Radulov NSH 20 (Great skill set. His motor never stops running. Should become a top line winger.)

3 - Petr Prucha NYR 23 (Tremendous upside. Great finisher with an superior work ethic. Badly needs to bulk up or he will be injured every season. Top six goalscorer with a very high ceiling.)

4 - Robbie Schremp EDM 20 (Boom or bust type of prospect. Might become an Art Ross contender or a mere power play specialist.)

5 - Alexander Steen TOR 22 (Top six playmaker with strong defensive play and sound leadership. Wise pick by the leafs.)

6 - Christopher Higgins MTL 23 (A future captain with 30/30 potential. Good two way player in the making)

7 - Steve Bernier (A quality prospect who is projected to become a second line scoring power forward.)

8 - Chuck Kobasew CGY 24 (Has good wheels and on ice awareness. His offensive gifts are obvious and his point totals would probalby be higher on another team. Second line two way speedster with several 50 poinst + seasons ahead of him.)

9 - Mikko Koivu MIN 23 (Still hasn't reached expectations. Will never be a high scoring center but he should become a good two way pivot with enough upside to play on the second line.)

10 - Raffi Torres EDM 24 (Two way grinder able to chip in offensively from time to time. Could possibly take his game to an even higher level and become a top power forward, but the odds of this happening grow thinner every year.)

 

[ChemiseBleuHonnete]

And Bernier still only had 11 less points in 41 less games.

.475 ppg for Higgins compared to .69 ppg for Bernier
We all know Brule's potential
Radulov tore apart the QMJHL
Schremp tore apart the OHL
Prucha scored 30 goals as a rookie
Steen played a great 2 way game while putting up 45 points

Higgins was outscored by nearly everybody on this list that played in the NHL this year. Don't get all bent out of shape just because people aren't ranking your favorite teams prospect high enough.

I'm not a habs homer, but Higgins is indeed a special player. Everyone who watched him on a regular basis this year (us, habs fans and some others too) will all think he's a fantastic player. Higgins is not only about offensive production, he's about great defensive, penality killing, creating chances with his speed, he's about non-stop effort every game and he's got that something special that makes your team win. It's a little bit hard to explain, especially to someone (like you) who thinks that stats are the only predicator of how good a player is.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Why Higgins? I understand Brule and Steen but Higgins doesn't really seem to fit in there.

I'm a Leafs fan and I believe Higgins definitely belongs in the same category as Steen. They are both excellent two-way players who play sound defence and can chip in offensively.

 

[Squeaky]

I'm a Leafs fan and I believe Higgins definitely belongs in the same category as Steen. They are both excellent two-way players who play sound defence and can chip in offensively.

Agreed, though it pains me as a habs fan. They're pretty comparable players, imo. Steens a better offensive player, but Higgins is a little better defensively.

I'd probably rank Steen higher than Higgins, but they're definitely in the same league.