Rank These Prospects

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  1. Heater15

    Heater15 Registered User

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    Jason Spezza
    Dion Phaneuf
    Marc-Andre Fleury
    Nathan Horton
    Eric Staal
    Dan Hamhuis
    Alexander Semin
    Jarret Stoll
    Derek Roy
    Kelly Gaurd
    Maxime Daigneault
    Michael Garnett

    Is that the order you would rank them in or is there some minor adjustments that need to be made? Possibly switch Staal and Horton?? Phaneuf and Fleury?? Hamhuis and Semin??

    Any help would be greatly appreciated
     
  2. Legionnaire

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    Here is how I'd rank em

    Spezza
    Horton
    Fleury
    Phaneuf
    Staal
    Hamhuis
    Semin

    Drop off

    Roy
    Stoll
    Daigneault
    Gaurd
    Garnett
     
  3. PhoPhan

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    Spezza
    Fleury
    Staal
    Phaneuf
    Horton
    Hamhuis
    Semin
    Stoll
    Roy
    Daigneault
    Garnett
    Guard
     
  4. LaLaLaprise

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    What he said...although i think Semin is undrrated on the boards for the most part. Since the trade deadline hes taken off.
     
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    Just an observation but people still tend to rank Staal way up there in most "whos going to be great down the road" polls. I know his point production has fallen way off (over the edge of a cliff- off). Is he still showing signs of brilliance and projected to be the next Ron Francis? I realize its late in the year and the season has probably taken its toll on him. What can be expected of him, now that everyone has had a full season to look at him? Is he still classified as first line material? Or has his stocked droppped at all?
     
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    Staal has actually moved up since a year ago on where i thought hed be.

    Staal by the time he is 22 will be an 80 pt 2 way centermen.
     
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    tier 1
    Jason Spezza
    Marc-Andre Fleury

    tier 2
    Dion Phaneuf
    Eric Staal
    Nathan Horton

    tier 3
    Dan Hamhuis
    Alexander Semin

    tier 4 significant drop off
    Jarret Stoll
    Derek Roy
    Maxime Daigneault

    tier 5
    Kelly Gaurd
    Michael Garnett
     
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    Completely agree with that. I'm still unsure if Phaneuf will be a tier 1 or tier 2 d-man though...He was incredible at the World Juniors.
     
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    I'd add Hamhuis and Semin to tier 2.
     
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    Well, lets not forget that Staal was 18 to start the season and is 19 years old now. There are quite a few big names in this league already that hadn't touched a sheet of NHL ice yet at that point. 30 points for a player as young as Staal should be considered a success. We've been spoiled by great campaigns from players like Rick Nash, Ilya Kovalchuk, and Patrice Bergeron lately and it makes it hard to accept that a young player like Staal can have a successful season and not put up points in bunches yet. Jason Spezza didn't even play in the NHL yet at Staal's age, and you see how everyone still ranks him at the top of their lists.


    The major issue with Staal is the fact that he has hit the rookie wall. Had that not happened, he would have been good for 40-45 points this year and would probably be in the thick of the Calder talks. With body maturation and development time, Staal is still on track to develop into a point per game player. It has just been deadly obvious to anyone who watches Hurricanes hockey that Staal is just tired and worn out. It has nothing to do with his skill level, it's just that his young frame isn't used to the demand of an 82 game NHL schedule yet. The fact still remains that during the preseason and the first 25 games of the season he was lights out. 7 goals in his first 7 preseason games and 15 points or so in his first 25 games.


    However, after seeing more of him i'm seeing less and less of Ron Francis. Mike Modano is looking more like the right comparison to me. I was under the impression that Staal was a playmaker first and foremost, but this kid loves to score. He is also a lot faster than Francis and skates a heck of a lot better. I'm not saying by any stretch he'll have a better career than Francis, but they are two differant types of players. 30G 50A seasons is probably how i'd expect him to reach a point per game.
     
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    1)Marc-Andre Fleury
    2)Jason Spezza
    3)Eric Staal
    4)Dion Phaneuf
    5)Dan Hamuis
    6)Nathan Horton
    7)Alexander Semin
    8)Jaret Stoll
    9)Maxime Daigneault
    10)Derek Roy
    11)Kelly Gaurd
    12)Michael Garnett
     
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    1. Marc-Andre Fleury
    2. Jason Spezza
    3. Eric Staal

    4. Dan Hamhuis
    5. Dion Phaneuf
    6. Alexander Semin
    7. Nathan Horton

    8. Jarret Stoll
    9. Derek Roy
    10. Maxime Daigneault
    11. Kelly Guard
    12. Michael Garnett
     
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    1.) Staal
    2.) Phaneuf
    3.) Spezza
    4.) Fleury

    5.) Dan Hamhuis
    6.) Nathan Horton
    7.) Alexander Semin

    8.) Derek Roy
    9.) Jarred Stoll

    10.) Kelly Guard
    11.) Maxime Daigneault

    12.) Michael Garnett
     
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    Marc-Andre Fleury
    Eric Staal/Jason Spezza.....I rank them even
    Jason Spezza/Eric Staal.....I rank them even
    Nathan Horton

    small drop
    Dion Phaneuf

    drop off
    Alexander Semin
    Dan Hamhuis

    drop off
    Jarret Stoll
    Derek Roy

    drop off
    Kelly Gaurd
    Maxime Daigneault
    Michael Garnett
     
  15. db23

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    Spezza is a veteran of 2 NHL seasons, I hardly think he qualifies as a "prospect" any longer.
     
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    1. Fleury
    2. Staal
    3. Spezza
    4. Horton
    5. Phaneuf
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    6. Hamhuis
    7. Semin
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    8. Daigneault
    9. Roy
    10. Stoll
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    11. Guard
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    12. Garnett
     
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