NFL: Raiders hiring Antonio Pierce as head coach

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[John Price]

right call

 

[EpochLink]

Hell yeah.

Now get a veteran OC and we will be good yall

 

[StreetHawk]

Hell yeah.

Now get a veteran OC and we will be good yall

Seen plenty of veteran DC like Flores, Morris, Wilks, Bradley, etc. that were former HC at one time (likely 1 and done for these guys).

I can't really name what you'd call a veteran OC. Like Reich, Bevell, Schottenheimer? Most OCs today are trending as the younger guys.

Do wonder who Pierce is targeting for his OC. That is the key hire for him. And without a QB right now, what is his sell job to someone?

 

[GKJ]

They’ll likely not hire anyone to fill those spots until they get the GM because that’s who is going to be the guy who knows people.

 

[BKIslandersFan]

I like AP. He deserves a shot. That being said why not hire a GM who would make that call?

Are they gonna give AP same power as Josh McDaniels?

 

[Live in the Now]

I like AP. He deserves a shot. That being said why not hire a GM who would make that call?

Are they gonna give AP same power as Josh McDaniels?

The interim GM is in a meeting with team brass and was in the HC interviews so they're probably hiring him too.

 

[red devil]

 

[EpochLink]

Will likely help on the defense side of things, as much as Marvin Lewis gets blasted as an head coach, he wasn’t that bad.

Before that, he was a terrific defensive head coach for a long time.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Good for Antonio

 

[PanthersPens62]

Good job Raiders.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Right move i think. Unless you were getting a guy like Harbaugh or Belichick, ripping the tag off Pierce was the way to go.

Between Gruden and McDaniels, the Raiders need a culture reset. He at least got them to show up and play with what is a pretty rough roster. Most common sentiment i saw from Raiders players is he just gets "it."

Could definitely see this being a Dan Campbell type where he's not the brightest Xs and Os guy but can easily work around that with the right people as coordinators/people (hiring Marvin Lewis i think is a pretty good start in that regard)

Edit: Also please let this be the f***ing end of teams trying to skin the Patriot Way and wear it for themselves.

 

[StreetHawk]

Right move i think. Unless you were getting a guy like Harbaugh or Belichick, ripping the tag off Pierce was the way to go.

Between Gruden and McDaniels, the Raiders need a culture reset. He at least got them to show up and play with what is a pretty rough roster. Most common sentiment i saw from Raiders players is he just gets "it."

Could definitely see this being a Dan Campbell type where he's not the brightest Xs and Os guy but can easily work around that with the right people as coordinators/people (hiring Marvin Lewis i think is a pretty good start in that regard)

Edit: Also please let this be the f***ing end of teams trying to skin the Patriot Way and wear it for themselves.

Coordinators are the key for him. Lewis is a defensive guy and I think the Raiders will be ok on D. It's the OC, QB coach, and OL coaches that are the key moving forward for AP.

Must have sold Davis enough on who he was targeting to fill those roles to get the job.

 

[BKIslandersFan]

Someone said PART of the reason why Mark Davis hired AP might have been because of budget issue, having to pay McDaniels and Gruden.

Which, I think, might be fair.

 

[DaaaaB's]

Will likely help on the defense side of things, as much as Marvin Lewis gets blasted as an head coach, he wasn’t that bad.

Before that, he was a terrific defensive head coach for a long time.

What Lewis did in Cincinnati is pretty close to a miracle considering the dipshit Owner/GM he had as a boss and they lack of resources he was given to work with. The team barely had a scouting staff because Mike Brown is a cheap fool. If Lewis had Joe Burrow as a QB he would've won plenty of playoff games.

Pierce is absolutely the right hire for the Raiders. Besides having a winning record as interim coach, the players obviously love him and I agree with whoever said he can be a Dan Campbell type head coach. I personally think being a great leader is more important for a coach than being an X and O's guy.

 

[DaaaaB's]

Seen plenty of veteran DC like Flores, Morris, Wilks, Bradley, etc. that were former HC at one time (likely 1 and done for these guys).

I can't really name what you'd call a veteran OC. Like Reich, Bevell, Schottenheimer? Most OCs today are trending as the younger guys.

Do wonder who Pierce is targeting for his OC. That is the key hire for him. And without a QB right now, what is his sell job to someone?

His sell job is you become an offensive coordinator in the NFL, get paid way more money and get a chance to prove yourself to become a head coach. These guys aren't anywhere near as picky about taking Coordinator jobs as you've been letting on. There's been plenty of coaches who've had an unsuccessful coordinator gig and still got another coordinator job a few years later.

 

[Blitzkrug]

What Lewis did in Cincinnati is pretty close to a miracle considering the dipshit Owner/GM he had as a boss and they lack of resources he was given to work with. The team barely had a scouting staff because Mike Brown is a cheap fool. If Lewis had Joe Burrow as a QB he would've won plenty of playoff games.

Pierce is absolutely the right hire for the Raiders. Besides having a winning record as interim coach, the players obviously love him and I agree with whoever said he can be a Dan Campbell type head coach. I personally think being a great leader is more important for a coach than being an X and O's guy.

Not to mention Lewis got screwed in 2005 when the Bengals lost Palmer on play 1 of their first playoff game in 15 years.

And then lost what was a legitimate MVP contender in Andy Dalton during the 2015 season, causing them to lose out on a first round bye and then having to start AJ McCarron in a playoff game.

In a different timeline, Marvin Lewis is viewed as an above average coach rather than a guy who everyone assumed Mike Brown was too cheap to fire.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Coordinators are the key for him. Lewis is a defensive guy and I think the Raiders will be ok on D. It's the OC, QB coach, and OL coaches that are the key moving forward for AP.

Must have sold Davis enough on who he was targeting to fill those roles to get the job.

It's been 22 years but Marvin Lewis did do a good job in his short time in Washington. I was like 13 that season.

Raiders should improve on D.

 

[DaaaaB's]

It's been 22 years but Marvin Lewis did do a good job in his short time in Washington. I was like 13 that season.

Raiders should improve on D.

Lewis should help but I don't think he's going to be DC unless Patrick Graham takes a job elsewhere. The Raiders had a top 5 defense after Pierce took over and Graham got a lot of credit for that.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Lewis should help but I don't think he's going to be DC unless Patrick Graham takes a job elsewhere. The Raiders had a top 5 defense after Pierce took over and Graham got a lot of credit for that.

Still, it improves the quality of play at the specific position he is responsible for. The Raiders have been sorely lacking across the board defensively.

They might be nasty next year...dare I say...Chief dethroners.

 

[DaaaaB's]

Still, it improves the quality of play at the specific position he is responsible for. The Raiders have been sorely lacking across the board defensively.

They might be nasty next year...dare I say...Chief dethroners.

I'm not sure about those last two words but I like your line of thinking.

 

[StreetHawk]

Still, it improves the quality of play at the specific position he is responsible for. The Raiders have been sorely lacking across the board defensively.

They might be nasty next year...dare I say...Chief dethroners.

Unknown a QB to say that…

See what Graham can do with the D if Wilson and Young can actually play to their draft positions.

 

[Donnie740]

Most common sentiment i saw from Raiders players is he just gets "it."

Could definitely see this being a Dan Campbell type where he's not the brightest Xs and Os guy but can easily work around that with the right people as coordinators/people (hiring Marvin Lewis i think is a pretty good start in that regard)

That’s because Pierce and Campbell played the game at the highest level and they understand how a team needs to function and how the game needs to flow. Same with Vrabel in Tennessee.

In comparison guys like Mike McDaniel, Nick Sirianni and Spanky McDonough who have no clue how to manage a game. This isn’t Madden23 where the only thing you have to do is pick the plays and let the computer execute them.

It’s pretty easy to tell who’s played the game and who hasn’t. Guys on the team know.