Predict Point Production for these Prospering Prospects

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  1. WhiskeyYourTheDevils

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    Im interested to see how other people may think these prospects will score at the NHL level. Include a rookie season and maybe a maximum scoring potential.

    Sidney Crosby
    Corey Perry
    Gilbert Brule
    Benoit Pouliot
    Marc-Antoine Pouliot
    Evgeni Malkin
    Zach Parise
    Jeff Carter
    Brandon Bochenski
    Robbie Schremp
    Dany Roussin
    Alexander Ovechkin
    Mike Richards
    Ryan O'Marra
    Patrick O'Sullivan
     
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    I'll give it a shot.

    Rookie season

    Crosby - 45 points
    Perry - 30 points
    Brule - 25 points
    Pouliot - 25 points
    MA Pouliot - 30 points
    Malkin - 45 points
    Parise - 35 points
    Carter - 35 points
    Bochenski - ???
    Schrempo - 40 points
    Roussin - May never play a full NHL season...
    Ovechkin - 55 points
    Richards - 25 points
    O'Marra - 10 points
    O'Sullivan 40 points

    Keep in that these players will all be different ages when they play their rookie year in the NHL.

    Max potential

    Crosby - 125 points
    Perry - 65 points
    Brule - 90 points
    Pouliot - 70 points
    MA Pouliot - 60 points
    Malkin - 100 points
    Parise - 85 points
    Carter - 75 points
    Bochenski - ???
    Schremp - 75 points
    Roussin - AHL
    Ovechkin - 100+ points
    Richards - 50 points
    O'Marra - 40 points
    O'Sullivan - 65 points
     
  3. WhiskeyYourTheDevils

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    I'd say thats a good call.
    For further info, Brandon Bochenski is a prospect for the Senators. He played for Binghampton of the AHL in 04-05 and led rookies in scoring.
     
  4. WhiskeyYourTheDevils

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    Rookie season

    Crosby - 70 points
    Perry - 30 points
    Brule - 25 points
    Pouliot - 25 points
    MA Pouliot - 30 points
    Malkin - 45 points
    Parise - 35 points
    Carter - 35 points
    Bochenski - 40 points
    Schrempo - 40 points
    Roussin - 15 points
    Ovechkin - 60 points
    Richards - 35 points
    O'Marra - 20 points
    O'Sullivan 45 points


    Max potential

    Crosby - 145 points
    Perry - 60 points
    Brule - 75 points
    Pouliot - 85 points
    MA Pouliot - 55 points
    Malkin - 95 points
    Parise - 80 points
    Carter - 70 points
    Bochenski - 60 points
    Schremp - 75 points
    Roussin - 45 points
    Ovechkin - 120 points
    Richards - 65 points
    O'Marra - 55 points
    O'Sullivan - 70 points
     
  5. stocktrader

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    With talk about future changes to the game, a "max potential" is tough to estimate.
     
  6. DaveMatthew

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    Rookie Season:
    Crosby - 60 points
    Perry - 35 points
    Brule - 40 points
    B. Pouliot - 40 points
    M. Pouliot - 40 points
    Malkin - 50 points
    Parise - 40 points
    Carter - 50 points
    Bochenski - 35 points
    Schremp - 35 points
    Roussin - 20 points
    Ovechkin - 55 points
    Richards - 40 points
    O'Marra - 15 points
    O'Sullivan - 35 points

    Career Potential:
    Crosby - 125 points
    Perry - 65 points
    Brule - 80 points
    B. Pouliot - 80 points
    M. Pouliot - 65 points
    Malkin - 95 points
    Parise - 75 points
    Carter - 85 points
    Bochenski - 55 points
    Schremp - 55 points
    Roussin - 35 points
    Ovechkin - 110 points
    Richards - 60 points
    O'Marra - 35 points
    O'Sullivan - 55 points
     
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    Crosby: rookie season = 70 pts. (and Calder), max season = 125-130 pts.
    Carter: rookie season = 50 pts., max season 80 pts.
    Richards: rookie season = 30-35 pts. (3rd/4th liner), max season 60-65 pts. (2nd line minutes)
    Parise: rookie season = 50 pts., max season 75 pts.
    Ovechkin: rookie season = 60 pts., max season = 100-105 pts.
     
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    Rookie season

    Crosby - 65 points
    Perry - 40 points
    Brule - 35 points
    Pouliot - 30 points
    MA Pouliot - 45 points
    Malkin - 50 points
    Parise - 35 points
    Carter - 40 points
    Bochenski - 20 points
    Schremp - 35 points
    Roussin - 30 points
    Ovechkin - 55 points
    Richards - 25 points
    O'Marra - 20 points
    O'Sullivan - 35 points

    Max potential

    Crosby - 140 points
    Perry - 70 points
    Brule - 70 points
    Pouliot - 60 points
    MA Pouliot - 80 points
    Malkin - 90 points
    Parise - 70 points(could change if the Devils change their style of play)
    Carter - 85 points
    Bochenski - 45 points
    Schremp - 60 points
    Roussin - 50 points
    Ovechkin - 110 points
    Richards - 55 points
    O'Marra - 40 points
    O'Sullivan - 75 points

    If Atlanta gets Crosby and he gets the chance to play with Heatley and Kovalchuk, his stats could be way up there. A lot depends on who he gets picked by.
     
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    Rookie Season
    Sidney Crosby - 70 - 80 points
    Corey Perry - 20 - 30 points
    Gilbert Brule - 40 - 50 points (not brought in the NHL right away)
    Benoit Pouliot - 30 - 40
    Marc-Antoine Pouliot- 40 - 50
    Evgeni Malkin - 60 -70 points
    Zach Parise - 35 - 45 points
    Jeff Carter - 40- 50 points (only because he is on Philly)
    Brandon Bochenski - 15 - 25 (Ottawa is too deep of a team he will play on 4th line)
    Robbie Schremp - 25 - 35 (majority goals)
    Dany Roussin - 15 -20 points
    Alexander Ovechkin - 55 - 65 points
    Mike Richards - 20 - 30 points
    Ryan O'Marra - 20 to 50 points
    Patrick O'Sullivan - 30 - 40 points (Minnesota is a very defensive team)

    Maximum Potential
    Sidney Crosby - 120 - 150 (maybe even higher, depends on who gets him)
    Corey Perry - 40 - 50 points
    Gilbert Brule - 60- 80 points
    Benoit Pouliot - 50 - 60 points
    Marc-Antoine Pouliot- 50 - 60 points
    Evgeni Malkin - 90 - 120 points
    Zach Parise- 60 -70 points
    Jeff Carter- 70 - 80 points
    Brandon Bochenski - 25 - 35 points
    Robbie Schremp - 50 -60 points (majority goals)
    Dany Roussin - 40 - 50 points (ddepends on who he works with)
    Alexander Ovechkin- 90 - 120
    Mike Richards - 40 - 50 points
    Ryan O'Marra - 50 - 60 points
    Patrick O'Sullivan - 60 - 70 points (will complement Gabby nicely)
     
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    Some of these projections are downright silly. Schremp and O'Sullivan limited to 50 or 60 points which is the same as O'Marra and Richards? Whatever.... :shakehead
     
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    I still feel Schremp is a tad overrated... Crosby 45 points rookie year... Schremp 40? I don't know... unless Schremp gets on terrific EDM PP.
     
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    Rookie Season

    Sidney Crosby - 75 points
    Corey Perry - 35 points
    Gilbert Brule - 50 points
    Benoit Pouliot - 45 points
    Marc-Antoine Pouliot - 40 points
    Evgeni Malkin - 60 points
    Zach Parise - 55 points
    Jeff Carter - 50 points
    Brandon Bochenski - 30 points
    Robbie Schremp - 45 points
    Dany Roussin - 25 points
    Alexander Ovechkin - 70 points
    Mike Richards - 35 points
    Ryan O'Marra - 30 points
    Patrick O'Sullivan - 40 points

    Maximum Potential

    Sidney Crosby - 150 points
    Corey Perry - 75 points
    Gilbert Brule - 90 to 100 points
    Benoit Pouliot - 80to 90 points
    Marc-Antoine Pouliot - 65 to 75 points
    Evgeni Malkin - 100 to 125 points
    Zach Parise - 80 points
    Jeff Carter - 80 to 90 points
    Brandon Bochenski - 55 to 65 points
    Robbie Schremp - 75 to 100 points (He's got all the offensive skills to be a 100 point guy)
    Dany Roussin - 45 points
    Alexander Ovechkin - 100 to 130 points
    Mike Richards - 75 points
    Ryan O'Marra - 75 points
    Patrick O'Sullivan - 75 points
     
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    I'll take a stab at it (and open myself to ridicule):

    Rookie season

    Crosby - 60 points
    Perry - 40 points
    Brule - 40 points
    Pouliot - 35 points
    MA Pouliot - 30 points
    Malkin - 60 points
    Parise - 45 points
    Carter - 40 points
    Bochenski - 35 points
    Schrempo - 45 points
    Roussin - 20 points
    Ovechkin - 60 points
    Richards - 35 points
    O'Marra - 20 points
    O'Sullivan 45 points

    Max potential

    Crosby - 110 points
    Perry - 85 points
    Brule - 85 points
    Pouliot - 75 points
    MA Pouliot - 70 points
    Malkin - 90 points
    Parise - 80 points
    Carter - 70 points
    Bochenski - 60 points
    Schremp - 90 points
    Roussin - 40 points
    Ovechkin - 100 points
    Richards - 65 points
    O'Marra - 60 points
    O'Sullivan - 85 points
     
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    Rookie season

    Crosby - 50 points
    Perry - 40 points
    Brule - 40 points
    Pouliot - 35 points
    MA Pouliot - 30 points
    Malkin - 50 points
    Parise - 35 points
    Carter - 45 points
    Bochenski - 25 points
    Schremp - 35 points
    Roussin - 15 points
    Ovechkin - 60 points
    Richards - 35 points
    O'Sullivan 30 points

    Max potential

    Crosby - 110 points
    Perry - 85 points
    Brule - 75 points
    Pouliot - 70 points
    MA Pouliot - 60 points
    Malkin - 100 points
    Parise - 60 points
    Carter - 85 points
    Bochenski - 60 points
    Schremp - 70 points
    Roussin - 40 points
    Ovechkin - 110 points
    Richards - 75 points
    O'Sullivan - 65 points
     
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    How is Schremp right there with many of the projected Franchise players? I mean c'mon 90 points... I like Schremp, but THAT good?
     
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    Some people consider Schremp the 3rd most talented player out of last year's draft (behind Ovechkin and Malkin). If we're talking about MAX potential, and the strengths of Schremp's game (his offense) I decided to shoot for the stars. Will he ever hit 90 points? Probably not, but I think it's more likely he veers in that direction than 50 or 60 points. That's NOT what Edmonton had in mind when they drafted him.
     
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    Schremp is probably the 4th most gifted player offensivly behind Crosby,Malkin and Ovechkin. He has the talent and skills to hit the 100 point mark but I don't think he will.
     
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    I'm not going to indicate how much they will score in their "rookie season" since its silly as they can crack the NHL either as a 19 year old or a 25 year old. My predictions are for these players in the 2005/2006 season (assuming that the '05 class is somehow drafted).

    Sidney Crosby - 55 points

    Corey Perry - Won't make the NHL

    Gilbert Brule - 20 points

    Benoit Pouliot - Won't make the NHL

    Marc-Antoine Pouliot - Won't make the NHL

    Evgeni Malkin - 60 points

    Zach Parise - 30 points

    Jeff Carter - 55 points

    Brandon Bochenski - Won't make the NHL

    Robbie Schremp - Won't make the NHL

    Dany Roussin - Won't make the NHL

    Alexander Ovechkin - 50 points

    Mike Richards - 25 points

    Ryan O'Marra - Won't make the NHL

    Patrick O'Sullivan - 15 points
     
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    Damn, many of you are counting on those rule changes, aren't you? The scoring leaders over the last 7 years had:

    1997 = 122

    1998 = 102

    1999 = 127

    2000 = 96

    2001 = 121

    2002 = 96

    2003 = 106

    http://www.tmlfever.com/NHLPlayerStats.html


    We have not had a 150 point scorer in almost 10 years.
     
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    And Crosby will come to the NHL and be the next one to do so. Seriously I think he's got everything to do it. It just depends on how the game will be played when he enters the league.
     
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    Even if they open up the game, I doubt anyone - anyone will be able to hit 150 points.
     
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    Do you have anything else to do except patrol these forums and whine about posts which don't agree with your (overhyped) views about U.S prospects??
     
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    O'Sullivan I think will surprise some people. Lemaire uses a transition type play...Sully with Bouchard and Gaborik could do some damage on the PP.
     
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    I think part of the reason people are down on O'Sullivan is because he is Wild property. And the cause of concern is, in my opinion, PM Bouchard, who, thus far, has been a disappointment with career high 22 points. And it has little to do with his ability as to the perceived role of the Lemaire system is having on his offensive development.

    Of course, PMB is still very young, but I think most people are concerned O'Sullivan will run into similar problems and that his offensive game will also be stagnated.

    Personally I think it'll be a good situation for the pair of them, I think they will feed off one another very well.
     
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    Hemsky managed to hit 30 mostly from passing. Don't see any reason why Schremp couldn't hit 40.
     
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