GDT: Pre Super Bowl Casual Skate (SJ @ CAR)

[Finlandia WOAT]

Peters just said that "They let each other down in the locker room, too".
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The french language has two forms of past active tense. One for specific events, one for generalities and vagaries.

That would be very useful atm...

 

[NotOpie]

We need a greasy, ugly plug that makes the other teams goalie uncomfortable. Penalties be damned. Someone that doesn’t fall to the ice at the slightest bit of contact. Can take a stick to the face or back of the legs and keep parking his ass in front of the net. Screw this style of play, it’s not working

There's this guy, his name is Valentin Zykov...you might have heard of him. He's a pain in the ass in front of opposing goalies....just wondering if he might be available for some NHL work.

OK, so let's put this together with Aho and Lindholm at C:

As for call-ups, it seems to me that Zykov is having most of his success on the power play, and he's actually a big minus player at even strength. Foegele is the guy producing at 5-on-5 and even shorthanded. And Wallmark, of course, is producing all the time. He should be in the NHL right now, especially when you look at our NHL roster. I'd put Wallmark/Foegele on the fourth line and dump Kruger/Nordstrom. Not sure how that can hurt.

Lindholm on the 4th line w/2 guys who can't keep the puck on their stick is the epitome of bad coaching. Add Wallmark and Foegele to a line w/Lindy and I might change my mind.

Poor Aho is trying his heart out.

We better pay damn close attention to this. If we can't get an extension done next summer with Sebastian, I believe he's gone....and yes, I'm borderline over-reacting.

Peters just said that "They let each other down in the locker room, too".

If that isn't a cherry on top. Even the **** we aren't supposed to know about is going bad.

f***ing Bill Peters....go ahead, blame the players when you don't seem to have a clue how get the guys to play for you. Look at a mirror....or is that line only available for your players.

 

[Novacane]

So does Peters have the balls to bench the most egregious offenders?

 

[The Faulker 27]

Bill's words may be evident of some serious ...

Wait for it....







Locker room Cancer.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Lindholm on the 4th line w/2 guys who can't keep the puck on their stick is the epitome of bad coaching. Add Wallmark and Foegele to a line w/Lindy and I might change my mind.

I agree with this part, at least. If you want a 4th line that'll score, call up the scorers in the AHL. putting lindholm with kruger and nordstrom is a waste of time.

heck I'd rather use kruger nordstrom mcginn with pesce and slavin as a shutdown line against top comp for a bit, tell tjem to play keep away don't worry about scoring, than put a lindholm/stemp down on the 4th line

 

[Bub]

Great!

So...Dahlbeck for Fleury, and Jooris and PDG for Kruger and Nordy.

CAN'T WAIT FOR TUESDAY.

 

[Canes]

So does Peters have the balls to bench the most egregious offenders?

Oh boy, we might get to see PDG, Jooris, and Dahlsuck

If not them, we get to see our top prospects play 5 minutes a night. Sweet! Stanley Cup here we come!

 

[tarheelhockey]

I didn't bring up Darling. Others did.

Nobody said a word about Darling or goaltending. You brought it up out of left field.

 

[The Faulker 27]

I still go back to draft night after he stockpiled all of the draft picks with the sole intention of trading them, DOING NOTHING, and coming away saying the trades weren’t there. If that doesn’t paint a perfect picture of his mentality, nothing will. He set himself up perfectly to make a big change for this team and let it pass on like a fart in the wind because it wasn’t easy. Sometimes YOU have to make the move, even if it means not squeezing every little drop out of your assets

As much as I want to slash RFs tires for basically accomplishing nothing that counts while he's been here, he was probably being truthful. Now, I think his days are numbered under TD if things don't change, but we may not have trades available because players don't want to come here. That's a shitty thought, but a very real possibility.

 

[Canes]

As much as I want to slash RFs tires for basically accomplishing nothing that counts while he's been here, he was probably being truthful. Now, I think his days are numbered under TD if things don't change, but we may not have trades available because players don't want to come here. That's a ****ty thought, but a very real possibility.

They don't want to come here because they see us floundering season after season as a result of our futile moves. Maybe if one of our moves actually worked out every once and awhile, things would be different. Besides I don't think no one wants to come here. If we pay up, players will come. Williams and Darling just did this offseason. Maybe sign and acquire better players instead?

 

[Joe McGrath]

Bill's words may be evident of some serious ...

Wait for it....







Locker room Cancer.

All that quote means is that they let each other down by playing like shit. Coaches and players say that, or some variation of that every time a team plays like shit.

 

[Joe McGrath]

They don't want to come here because they see us floundering season after season as a result of our futile moves. Maybe if one of our moves actually worked out every once and awhile, things would be different. Besides I don't think no one wants to come here. If we pay up, players will come. Williams and Darling just did this offseason. Maybe sign and acquire better players instead?

They don’t want to come here because the Canes have a literal beer league practice arena and we’re until recently worried about ordering hockey equipment.

 

[SaskCanesFan]

I know you don't like RF, but I think he deserves a shot under TD. I believe PK was a major road block to change. That's obviously not the case anymore, but the big question mark is what can be done soon to salvage this season. That's ultimately what the new owner wants. He's not ok with rolling over. Nor should he be when his team he just paid hundreds of millions for, sits 2 points out. If it means a trade, or bringing up AHLers, so be it. Averaging 1-2 goals per game is obviously a way to very quickly sink the season.

Yeah I'd be giving RF at least this offseason to see what he can do is with Dundon paying, if not one more after. I think having PK around really limited what was available to him.

 

[The Faulker 27]

They don't want to come here because they see us floundering season after season as a result of our futile moves. Maybe if one of our moves actually worked out every once and awhile, things would be different. Besides I don't think no one wants to come here. If we pay up, players will come. Williams and Darling just did this offseason. Maybe sign and acquire better players instead?

Oh boy Williams and Darling. What other big whales can we land? Seriously, it's a catch 22. We don't draft high enough, and having money to spend on talent is only one part of the equation. We're looking at a decade of missing the playoffs, with several glaring issues. Not exactly a mecca for top talent right now. I'm sure that will change eventual.

 

[The Faulker 27]

All that quote means is that they let each other down by playing like ****. Coaches and players say that, or some variation of that every time a team plays like ****.

Yeah, it was a joke.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Yeah, it was a joke.

Yours was the last post on the subject and I’m too lazy to multi-quote.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Yours was the last post on the subject and I’m too lazy to multi-quote.

I totally understand.

 

[Stickpucker]

Canes look so bored

Bill Peters hockey must be fun to play.

 

[Stickpucker]

I'm pretty sure the creator of this had Francis in mind when creating it:

The room is keeping doge's coffee warm and he is untouched...so maybe he is enjoying himselves.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Francis doesn't seem to have a plan for the canes to be built for anything, esp. forwards. Do you want fast guys? checking guys? big guys? skill guys? the forwards are a mishmash, you haveaho who is skill guy and fast guy, tt who is skill guy, skinner who varies wildly, but at his best is a monster forechecker, good skater and stupid skilled, staal, who is big and a good forechecker and lindholm, who also varies but at his best is a good forechecker and skill guy.

mcginn is just a hair too slow to be called a good forechecker imo.

and everyone else is nhl average to minus at best. just an awful group of forwards- but what main aspect of play are they going for? who knows.

defense is kinda the same, 'cept Francis lucked into slavin, pesce and tvr.

i don't think it's a coincidence that detroit and the sharks have 3-4 guys who are burners, or the rangers and pens have 3-4 wingers who are monster forecheckers. meanwhile edmonton also has a mishmash and they're tanking.

I'll give ronnie a chance to prove that the dumpster diving was necessitated by ownership. But I'd like to see a coherent pattern among forwards, not just taking wjo we can get.

 

[Stickpucker]

There's this guy, his name is Valentin Zykov...you might have heard of him. He's a pain in the ass in front of opposing goalies....just wondering if he might be available for some NHL work.



Lindholm on the 4th line w/2 guys who can't keep the puck on their stick is the epitome of bad coaching. Add Wallmark and Foegele to a line w/Lindy and I might change my mind.



We better pay damn close attention to this. If we can't get an extension done next summer with Sebastian, I believe he's gone....and yes, I'm borderline over-reacting.



****ing Bill Peters....go ahead, blame the players when you don't seem to have a clue how get the guys to play for you. Look at a mirror....or is that line only available for your players.

Oh crap...did we not shave?

 

[My Special Purpose]

I didn't bring up Darling. Others did.

The sentiment going into the offseason last year was that our goaltending (Ward and Lack at the time) was the reason for our X consecutive missed playoffs and if we could get better goaltending, we'd be a lock.

At the time, I argued the same thing I'm arguing now. Given how little our team scores, changing goalies won't make a lick of a difference. Unless we're expecting a Vezina performance from Ward/Darling/Fleury/Bishop/whoever, goaltending was not and is not the biggest issue for this team.

I was dismissed as a "Ward defender", as if the thought that an offense that produced as little as it did last year (and unsurprisingly has this year) could have any affect on a team's playoff chances.

So when I see the same arguments being made again this year, with the idea that Darling is somehow the biggest issue on the team and not the fact that our offense has essentially been 1 guy for the entire season (TT in the first few months and Aho since then)...

On top of this, there's not a crazy amount that we can do about our goaltending mid-season. We can add a guy like Mrazek, but a blockbuster for our next savior isn't immediately in the cards. So aside from picking between Ward, Darling, Smith or Nedjelkovic on a daily basis, I'm not sure what we can do.

 

[SaskCanesFan]

I didn't bring up Darling. Others did.

The sentiment going into the offseason last year was that our goaltending (Ward and Lack at the time) was the reason for our X consecutive missed playoffs and if we could get better goaltending, we'd be a lock.

At the time, I argued the same thing I'm arguing now. Given how little our team scores, changing goalies won't make a lick of a difference. Unless we're expecting a Vezina performance from Ward/Darling/Fleury/Bishop/whoever, goaltending was not and is not the biggest issue for this team.

I was dismissed as a "Ward defender", as if the thought that an offense that produced as little as it did last year (and unsurprisingly has this year) could have any affect on a team's playoff chances.

So when I see the same arguments being made again this year, with the idea that Darling is somehow the biggest issue on the team and not the fact that our offense has essentially been 1 guy for the entire season (TT in the first few months and Aho since then)...

This seems like a lot of recency bias and cherry picking. Yes, the offense has by far and away been the problem lately, but early in the year there were games that the offense was good enough and the goalie wasn't. Despite everything, the Canes are somehow still only 1 point out, so it wouldn't be hard for those people to argue that they were right in the offseason, better goaltending could easily be worth 2 or 3 more points as of today. So we'd still be complaining about the offense right now costing us this game and the Detroit one, but we'd be doing it from the first wildcard spot. That's absolutely a lick of difference to this point.

Now the longer it goes on of not being able to score, you're right and the goaltending becomes a moot point. They need to add more firepower regardless, but when the guy you're expecting to be a starter rocks a sub 900 save% for 30 games, there's hardly an offense in the league that can overcome that. Certainly not one that the Canes can trade for .

 

[My Special Purpose]

I hope it's nothing reactionary. Adding one or two players to the current core at the cost of a top prospect and/or pick could set the Canes back long term and not really move the needle for this season much. As painful as it is, we might be in for rebuild #5/6, but at least we have a new owner committed now.

Really? You're worried about RF doing something reactionary? Sounds like him, yeah.

 

[Breakdowns]

Great!

So...Dahlbeck for Fleury, and Jooris and PDG for Kruger and Nordy.

CAN'T WAIT FOR TUESDAY.

Oh 3 passengers will change something, of course, they will SCORE GOALS