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Puckhead said:Lets hope he's not a complete clone, cause Deadmarsh is having some serious health issues.
Okay, let's just say, playing style clone.
Puckhead said:Lets hope he's not a complete clone, cause Deadmarsh is having some serious health issues.
5 goals in 12 AHL playoff games as well I believe.db23 said:Carter only had 65 points this year in the OHL.
It has to be taken w/ a grain of salt b/c it was only a prospect camp, but everybody who was there said he looked really good. Hopefully he plays w/ Umberger in the AHL next season and we can get a better idea of his scoring line potential. He'll be given every chance to develop in Philly.Hossa said:I'll back up Boomhower on this one. While he has a great shot, so does Andre Roy, which is actually a pretty fair comparison for Eager. He lacks hands or hockey sense. He seriously lacks both in fact. He's got size, speed and heavy but inaccurate shot, and he fights. But he is by no means a scoring line prospect at this point. He may find himself more succesful in the professional game, but I'd be incredibly surprised if he's ever a scoring line player in the NHL. Simply put, he lacks the hands or head.
blah said:5 goals in 12 AHL playoff games as well I believe.
It has to be taken w/ a grain of salt b/c it was only a prospect camp, but everybody who was there said he looked really good. Hopefully he plays w/ Umberger in the AHL next season and we can get a better idea of his scoring line potential. He'll be given every chance to develop in Philly.
You do realize Chuck Kobasew, Denis Gauthier, Rico Fata, and Oleg Saprykin are all playing in the NHL right?db23 said:Daniel Tkaczuk, Oleg Saprykin, Eric Nystrom, Brent Krahn, Chuck Kobasew, Denis Gauthier, Rico Fata, Jasper Mattson, Niklas Sundblad.......
db23 said:I think that Ovechkin, Malkin, and Olesz are the only true power forwards from this summer's draft.
I went to 2 pre season games last year and to tell u the truth personally i thought stewart was more impresive. He was flying around the ice like a mad man taking carolina players out like they were migit players. Horton looked more uncomfortable. Now i agree now that after a full season with Fl, Hortons skills are better. But i think in the end Stew will be a better player. I saw him skate with the rookie prospects camp this year and he was toying with those guys and knocking them on their a@@. he was def. a standout.GorillazXL said:Anthony Stewart has the size and strength, but I can't see him being a big scorer like Horton. IMO he'll be a type of player you need on a cup winner, tough but skilled enough put up some points. 45+ pts/ season
Lauri Tukonen is probally the most well rounded out of the four and can see playing a high energy game but not a Bertuzzi like player where he'll charge the net with the puck. I think he'll have the scoring touch of Guerin, but without the mean streak that Guerin has. 65pts+/season
Jeff Carter IMHO is top notch talent as far as centers go, hopefully he'll mode into a Primeau but in a shorter time. His play during the WJC was terrific, he's defensively aware and contributes when the opportunity is there. Tough to move, at least against junior level players. 65pts+/season
Andrew Ladd I'm not a huge fan of him, I really think him playing with Getzlaf this year made him a higher draft then his skills would dictate. IMO he'll be a good NHLer but I wouldn't expect him to be a sniper like Nash. 45+pts/ season
I would say Carter is the best pick of the bunch
GXL
I would disagree with last preseason regarding Stewart & Horton. Horton got better as the preseason went on (and then later during the regular season) and Stewart tailed off quite a bit after the first game or 2. I also don't think the Bertuzzi comparison is all that accurate either (but he's the prototypical PF). Stewart hasn't really dominated the OHL (stats-wise) but he has the physical tools you want in a player. I've heard the comparison of Stewart & Iginla before and it seems possible but still not all that likely. Stewart needs to make sure he keeps his weight down so that he can maintain his quickness. I think Anthony tops out at 60 pts/yr and averages about 45-50 most yrs when he hits his prime. And I do like what he brings and he is what I consider a 2nd line PF but to expect him to be like a Bertuzzi, Iginla, etc. is a bit far fetched IMO (maybe if he tore up the OHL last season I could see it)pucks1 said:I went to 2 pre season games last year and to tell u the truth personally i thought stewart was more impresive. He was flying around the ice like a mad man taking carolina players out like they were migit players. Horton looked more uncomfortable. Now i agree now that after a full season with Fl, Hortons skills are better. But i think in the end Stew will be a better player. I saw him skate with the rookie prospects camp this year and he was toying with those guys and knocking them on their a@@. he was def. a standout.
Jay Thompson said:Uhh.. Andrew Ladd?
Not sure I'd classify any of those guys as 'power forwards'.
Kris Chucko is also definetly a power forward.
Pepper said:Fully agree with you, it's the usual case of people using the term 'power forward' too freely.
Ovechkin, Malkin and Olesz are not and will not become power forwards unless something radical happens in their developement, simply being gritty, high-scoring forward doesn't make you a powerforward (see Marian Hossa & Peter Forsberg). Besides, I'm not convinced that you can call Olesz even gritty...
Also this applies to Tukonen, while he's gritty and not afraid to play physical, he simply lacks mean streak and willingness to intimidate opponents which are essential abilities for a powerforward.
Ladd is IMHO the only potential powerforward of the top picks in the draft and even he needs more of a mean streak. Chucko needs more seasons in more competitive league to see if he has real potential to become a NHL-powerforward or will he become just another physical grinder a la Darren McCarty.
Agreed, Chucko has some very good moves. I beleive he put up more points as a 17 year old with Salmon Arm then Zajac did at the same age. Chucko is going to the University of Minnesota this fall to play with the Golden Gophers, a program that has just begun to let people from other States play.. much less a player from Canada. They must see something in Kris Chucko because it is a rare feat for a Canadian to be invited to play for them. I hold the Golden Gopher hockey program in very high regards. The kid could be a sleeper.Vipers said:Agree 100% with you, I only see Chucko with a better off. potential than McCarthy.