Playoffs of Laine/Matthews

[Andy6]

Matthews is probably a little more susceptible to being dragged down by poor team play. Laine’s style of play lets him freelance a goal here and there no matter what the team is doing. Still, unlike Matthews (so far), Laine is definitely showing himself to be a credible playoff performer. Also, he is much more likely to stay with Winnipeg long term than Matthews would have been, in my estimation.

 

[snowkiddin]

this is true as to how people think in the gta but nowhere else on earth

I think most Leaf fans see how close these players are and it’s mostly just the trolls that say stuff like “Matthews/Laine AINEC”

 

[Andy6]

Why? Loads of people had us finishing second to last in the division this year. Some other loads had us losing in the first round against the Wild.

Sure, if we drop 3 straight, I'd be disappointed. If we win one round and lose to the President's Trophy winners in the 2nd round? Meh. If we go further and then drop a round in either the 3rd or 4th? At least we were there.

No, I will definitely need therapy...

 

[karnige]

Matthews playing injured?

if he is hes made of glass. hes hurt every 5 minutes now. youd think a big body with young legs would bounce back quicker

 

[Guffman]

at least you have a division title and home ice advantage. we haven't had that since 2000 and 2004

We have never won a division title. This is the first time we have had home ice advantage in over 30 years.

You can’t outsob our sob story!!

 

[rent free]

We have never won a division title. This is the first time we have had home ice advantage in over 30 years.

You can’t outsob our sob story!!

you guys used to be atlanta. thats what i'm referring to lol

 

[BB88]

Tell me about it...

It’s always:

Matthews > Laine
Marner > Connor
Nylander > Ehlers
Rielly > Trouba
Andersen > Hellebuyck
Leafs bottom 6 > Jets bottom 6

But when it comes down to Laine vs Matthews comparisons it’s “well Laine is performing well because his team is better” and “Matthews has nothing to work with.”

The Jets have more depth but I think it’s fair to say that all those comparisons are relatively close and it’s not Toronto in every category like some (probably trolls) would have you believe.

If only we could go back to the summer threads and all the vs threads and how that's changed, how many comparisons have been "insulting".

Many had Winnipeg at the bottom of Central in the summer& plenty of fans were laughing at Chevy.

 

[Coach]

Good to see Laine clearly play at a higher tier than Matthews in the playoffs and prove he is the better player and end this debate once and for all. I am glad this argument has finally and conclusively been decided.

 

[Daximus]

If only we could go back to the summer threads and all the vs threads and how that's changed, how many comparisons have been "insulting".

Many had Winnipeg at the bottom of Central in the summer& plenty of fans were laughing at Chevy.

It's crazy how underrated we were coming into the season. Even I thought we'd be a 3rd place/wild card team.

 

[behemolari]

We have never won a division title. This is the first time we have had home ice advantage in over 30 years.

You can’t outsob our sob story!!

Laine is so lucky having team like that

 

[jetsforever]

It's crazy how underrated we were coming into the season. Even I thought we'd be a 3rd place/wild card team.

Same, I never thought we'd improve so much so quickly

On topic, it's pretty clear that Matthews has struggled so far, but that is probably just due to inexperience plus Bergeron's line. I'm sure he'll be fine.
Laine's doing quite well so far.

 

[winnipegger]

Meh, I think the fact that Laine is facing a depleted Minny team is a big factor. Boston is no joke they are one of the best defensive squads in the league. It was just a tough match up for Toronto and Matthews is finding little space to do anything. The real test for Laine will come against the Preds (knock on wood).

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Meh, I think the fact that Laine is facing a depleted Minny team is a big factor. Boston is no joke they are one of the best defensive squads in the league. It was just a tough match up for Toronto and Matthews is finding little space to do anything. The real test for Laine will come against the Preds (knock on wood).

Winnipeg is honestly killing Minnesota. I can't believe it wasn't a sweep. Nashville/Colorado vs Winnipeg should be a great series

 

[behemolari]

Why do we keep seeing these threads from both fan bases?

I have no problem saying that Laine is dominating in the playoffs while Matthews is struggling, but how one playoff series determines which player is better overall escapes me.

What also escapes me is the notion that any of this measuring contest even matters. The Leafs had a choice of two incredible players, picked the centre, and let the winger fall to the Jets. Neither team has any reason to be disappointed with what they got.

of course, remember it's not about Jets but Laine fans, they're still butt hurt inferior player took the first pick

 

[Morbo]

Will these playoffs change the unanimous belief held by everybody outside of Jets fans that Matthews is better than Laine if these two players continue on their trajectories?

To me, and im sure everybody else, Matthews has been invisible and the Jets are scorching hot with Laine leading the charge. In this up and down fluctuation of determining who is the better player, has Laine surpassed Matthews for the time being?

What up and down fluctuation...?

 

[BB88]

It's crazy how underrated we were coming into the season. Even I thought we'd be a 3rd place/wild card team.

I thought they had one of the best depths on the NHL, but had Maurice as a complete mystery.

 

[Magic Man]

Minnesota had lost 2 games at home since December. They have now lost 3. You try to make it out to be that they are a terrible team when they are not. Weren't you one of the leaf fans that said...leafs beat the Bruins 7 times this year....we will win in 5 games? Now the Bruins are all of a sudden a good team?

You got the wrong guy. The Leafs didn't even play Boston 7 times this year lol. I don't really care about Minnesota's home record, statistically they were much further back than the Jets in the standings and it's showing so far in the series. They're even missing there best player, so again it's not so surprising.

 

[Magic Man]

Tell me about it...

It’s always:

Matthews > Laine
Marner > Connor
Nylander > Ehlers
Rielly > Trouba
Andersen > Hellebuyck
Leafs bottom 6 > Jets bottom 6

But when it comes down to Laine vs Matthews comparisons it’s “well Laine is performing well because his team is better” and “Matthews has nothing to work with.”

The Jets have more depth but I think it’s fair to say that all those comparisons are relatively close and it’s not Toronto in every category like some (probably trolls) would have you believe.

Must have forgotten about your 2 best players Wheeler and Scheifele lol

 

[Morbo]

It's crazy how underrated we were coming into the season. Even I thought we'd be a 3rd place/wild card team.

For me it was more not seeing Helle being a Vezina finalist. did not see that coming.

 

[behemolari]

Must have forgotten about your 2 best players Wheeler and Scheifele lol

Kadri > Scheifele
Komarov > Wheeler

 

[Daximus]

I thought they had one of the best depths on the NHL, but had Maurice as a complete mystery.

I think Mo was a little underrated. The players are buying into his system and it is working. Of course having better personnel at nearly every position since he started here has definitely helped.

 

[Daximus]

For me it was more not seeing Helle being a Vezina finalist. did not see that coming.

I think Jets fans knew he was capable of more it was just a matter of unlocking that talent. He has played well at every other level it was just a matter of would he find it.

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Matthews is probably a little more susceptible to being dragged down by poor team play. Laine’s style of play lets him freelance a goal here and there no matter what the team is doing. Still, unlike Matthews (so far), Laine is definitely showing himself to be a credible playoff performer. Also, he is much more likely to stay with Winnipeg long term than Matthews would have been, in my estimation.

Matthews is more susceptible to being dragged down?

This is a whole new narrative and first time I’ve heard this. Up until now it’s been Matthews drives his line and lifts players up.

Im not disagreeing, just first time I’ve seen a leaf fan say this.

 

[Morbo]

Matthews is more susceptible to being dragged down?

This is a whole new narrative and first time I’ve heard this. Up until now it’s been Matthews drives his line and lifts players up.

Im not disagreeing, just first time I’ve seen a leaf fan say this.

don't think that's a Leaf fan...

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

don't think that's a Leaf fan...

Oh. Lol. Than carry on, and the world hasn’t changed. My floor dropped at the self awareness for a while, guess it was unwarranted. Lol.