Players re-entering the draft

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  1. Oilers Chick

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    I was just curious about something. Many people here have talked about players who re-enter the draft. Does anyone know how successful these players are that do? I'm not necessarily asking about how well do they once they make it to the pros here but rather what impact, if any, it has on their stock compared to the last time they were there. For example, people have talked about A.J. Thelen re-entering the draft. When Minnesota originally drafted him, many were pretty high on him and his future potential but now it seems that his stock has really fallen, particularly since leaving Michigan State. Is Thelen's case the exception or the norm?
     
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    In the case of someone like Scott Parker (weird, eh?), he went from a 3rd round pick to a 1st round pick after he wasn't signed the first time around.
     
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    Generally speaking, I would say that the player's stock has fallen and they get re-drafted at a lower position... which is probably partially the reason the players not being signed.

    3 examples I can think of:

    Nick Boynton
    9th overall in 97, 21st overall in 99 (although still a 1st round pick).

    Matt Zultek
    15th overall in 97, 56th overall in 99.

    Ramzi Abid
    28th overall in 98, 85th overall in 00.
     
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    montreal Go Habs Go

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    Matthew Lombardi went from 215th in '00 to 90th in '02
    Jarret Stoll went from 46th in '00 to 36th in '02


    Seems to have worked well for both of them.
     
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    Yeah, CGY and EDM could have each saved thier 02 picks if they traded those two guys before the draft lol

    Stoll was picked by CGY, then EDM when he re-entered, opposite for Lombardi
     
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    yeah... i love lombardi, but that really pissed me off when stoll went back into the draft and didnt sign with calgary stoll is probably one of my favourite players

    ps. thelen i think becomes a free agent now? hes done playing junior hockey, finishing up his overage year in the WHL and now is free to sign with an nhl club? correct me if im wrong...
     
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    Except that part of the reason Lombardi was picked so early was to get back at Edmonton.
     
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    don't forget Martin Vagner :cry:

    Selected by Dallas Stars round 1 #26 overall 2002 NHL Entry Draft
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    Nathan Paetsch went from #58 overall (2nd rounder) in '01 to #202 (7th rounder) in '03.

    Gerald DiCaire went from #48 overall in 2000 to #162 in '02.
     
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    Masi Marjamaki:
    66th overall in '03 by BOS
    144th overall in '05 by NYI
     
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    Anaheim prospect Tim Brent was re-entered and oddly enough re-selected by Anaheim.
     
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    Yeah, I think Ottawa did the same thing with goalie Mathieu Chouinard, and Jersey did that with Pierre Dagenais.

    Much ado about nothing in the end.
     
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    Fedor Fedorov moved up the second time:
    Selected by Tampa Bay #182 overall in the 1999 NHL Entry Draft
    Selected by Vancouver #66 overall in the 2001 NHL Entry Draft
     
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    Mike Rupp
    1998 #9
    2000 #76

    Columbus also drafted 2 times the same player, D Trevor Hendrikx
    2003 #283
    2005 # 201
     
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    And don't forget Dany Roussin

    2003 - 7th round, 223rd overall
    2005 - 2nd round, 50th overall

    Playing on a line with Crosby helped him increase his stock by 5 rounds :sarcasm:
     
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    There weren't any re-draftees, it was a non-issue this year.

    Although not a re-draftee, Frazer McLaren played in preseason games with the Kings last year as a try-out and was drafted by the Sharks last week.

    Since 2007 draftees need to have their 18th birthday on or before 9/15/1989 then out of the 211 draftees, 43 draftees were eligible for the 2006 draft. Of these, 14 2007 draftees were eligible in 2005. Of these, two draftees--Nashville's Robert Dietrich (7/25/1986) and Tampa Bay's Johan Harju (5/15/1986)--were eligible to be drafted in 2004 unless I'm not remembering a change to the 2005 CBA.
     
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    All Redrafted Players

     
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    Case #259 on why Canucks scouting absolutely sucks. Continually re-drafting old, proven failures, usually 50+ picks ahead of where they were previously taken. :shakehead
     

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