Players Going to Europe in 2004-2005

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  1. Dr.Sens(e)

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    Here is a rough list of players signed and committed to Europe next season. As a reminder, players who play in Europe and are under contract in the HFNHL, move to your prospect roster and are unavailable until they return to the NHL.

    Of note, players signing case of an NHL Lock-out have not been added, as they are not officially 'committed' to playing in Europe next season.

    Players going in Europe for 2004-05 (as of July 13th)
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    ATLANTA :
    Brian Swanson, Kassel Huskies, Germany
    Randy Robitaille, ZSC Lions, Switzerland
    Tommi Santala, HIFK Helsinki, Finland (June 8th)

    ANAHEIM :
    Tony Martensson, Linköpings HC, Sweden

    BOSTON :
    Tim Thomas, Jokerit Helsinki, Finland
    Rich Brennan, SC Bern, Switzerland (July 1st)

    BUFFALO :
    Dmitri Kalinin, Metallurg Magnitogorsk, Russia (July 2nd)

    CAROLINA :
    Jamie Storr, Adler Mannheim, Germany

    CHICAGO :
    Igor Korolev, Lokomotiv Yaroslavl, Russia (July 13th)

    COLUMBUS :
    Derrick Walser, Eisbären Berlin, Germany
    Fred Brathwaite, Ak Bars Kazañ, Russia (June 19th)
    Donald MacLean, Blues Espoo, Finland (July 2nd)
    Brad Moran, Lokomotiv Yaroslavl, Russia (July 7th)

    COLORADO :
    Tommi Salo, MoDo Hockey, Sweden

    DALLAS :
    Lubomir Sekeras, Nürnberg Ice Tigers, Germany (July 8th)
    Mark Wotton, SKA St. Petersburg, Russia (July 9th)

    DETROIT :
    Marc Lamothe, Lokomotiv Yaroslavl, Russia (June 15th)

    EDMONTON :
    Mikko Luoma, MIF Redhawks, Sweden (June 9th)

    FLORIDA :
    Denis Shvidky, Lokomotiv Yaroslavl, Russia (July 7th)

    LOS ANGELES :
    Pavel Rosa, Dynamo Moskva, Russia
    Steve Kelly, Adler Mannheim, Germany
    Milan Hnilicka, HC Liberec, Czech Republic
    Maksim Kuznetsov, Dynamo Moskva, Russia

    MINNESOTA :
    Mika Hannula, Mif Redhawks, Sweden

    MONTREAL :
    Benoit Gratton, HC Lugano, Switzerland (June 15th)
    Andreas Dackell, Brynäs IF, Sweden (May 14th)

    NASHVILLE :
    Jonas Andersson, Södertälje SK, Sweden
    Robert Schnabel, HC Sparta Praha, Czech Republic
    Kiril Safronov, Ak Bars Kazañ, Russia (June 13th)
    Darren Haydar, Nürnberg Ice Tigers, Germany (June 15th)
    Timo Helbling, Kloten Flyers, Switzerland (June 17th)
    Curtis Murphy, Lokomotiv Yaroslavl, Russia (June 21st)

    NEW JERSEY :
    Marek Chvatal, HC Ocelári Trinec, Czech Republic (june 20th)
    Viktor Kozlov, Lada Togliatti, Russia (July 12th)

    NEW YORK ISLANDERS :
    Alan LeTang, Hamburg Freezers, Germany
    Tomi Pettinen, Lukko Rauma, Finland

    OTTAWA :
    Julien Vauclair, HC Lugano, Switzerland

    PHILADELPHIA :
    Mattias Timander, MoDo Hockey, Sweden

    PHOENIX :
    Goran Bezina, HC Genève-Servette, Switzerland
    Frank Banham, SaiPa Lappeenranta, Finland (July 12th)

    PITTSBURG :
    Patrick Boileau, HC Lausanne, Switzerland
    David Koci, HC Sparta Praha, Czech Republic
    Michal Sivek, HC Sparta Praha, Czech Republic
    Landon Wilson, Blues Espoo, Finland (June 23rd)


    TAMPA BAY :
    Jimmie Olvestad, Djurgardens, Sweden
    Pascal Trépanier, Nürnberg Ice Tigers, Germany

    TORONTO :
    Mikael Renberg, Lulea HF, Sweden

    VANCOUVER :
    Nolan Baumgartner, Frankfurt Lions, Germany
    Jaroslav Obsut, Lulea, Sweden
    Sean Pronger, Frankfurt Lions, Germany
    Sergei Varlamov, Ak Bars Kazañ, Russia (June 13th)
    Brandon Reid, Hamburg Freezers, Germany (July 7th)

    WASHINGTON :
    Andrej Podkonicki, HC Liberec, Czech Republic
    Ivan Ciernik, EHC Wolfsburg, Germany
    Ratislav Stana, Sodertalje SK, Sweden
    Dainius Zubrus, Lada Togliatti, Russia (July 1st)
    Roman Tvrdon, Nottingham Panthers. England (July 12th)
     
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    Landon Wilson has signed with Espoo Blues
     
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    Mattias Timander has NOT yet signed with MODO.
     
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    spintheblackcircle ...so that happened.

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    annnnnnddd...

    Joe Thornton.

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    Is Sylvain Lefebvre returning to Bern? Would love to dump that 1.5 mil contract! :handclap: :banana:
     
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    Not sure if this thread is also to identify players who were in Europe last year but were still on my HFNHL roster, but oh well.

    I assume Claude Lemieux will either stay in Europe or simply retire. He played, albeit only 7 games, in the Swiss League last year. Same goes for Peter Skudra, who will continue to play in the Russian Super League as far as I can see.

    Also, an early prediction...Petr Schastlivy will sign with a Russian Super League team. Heard it here first. ;)
     
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    From a HFNHL Canes point of view,

    Garrett Bembridge and Sean Pronger have gone to Europe... Both are shown on the waymoresports.com website in the NHL watch section.

    They were both AHLers but i guess everyone counts.
     
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    Mattias Timander, (II) Modo, SWE June 3, 04
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    Timander still hasnt sign for MODO if that what you are asking. He has denied atleast two offers from the Flyers so far this summer.
     
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    spintheblackcircle ...so that happened.

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    Leafs Euro additions...

    In addition to Randy Robitaille, Jonas Andersson and Brandon Reid (as indicated by Nick above), the following three players are also scheduled to play in Europe this coming season...

    D Tom Koivisto
    Frolunda, SEL
    http://tsf.waymoresports.thestar.com/thestar/hockey/player.cgi?2998

    D Peter Smrek
    EHC Wolfsburgh, Germany
    http://tsf.waymoresports.thestar.com/thestar/hockey/player.cgi?2047

    W Craig Adams
    Milano Vipers, Italy
    http://tsf.waymoresports.thestar.com/thestar/hockey/player.cgi?1837


    Also, recetly signed Tommy Albelin has decided to retire, he will not join the Leafs this coming season, as was first expected...
    http://tsf.waymoresports.thestar.com/thestar/hockey/player.cgi?0242



    Eric
     
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    Mattias Timander signed a two year deal today with.............the Philadelphia Flyers.
     
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    You Can Add Robert Reichel to that list. He signed with a Czech club today.
     
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    Mariusz Czerkawski signed with Djurgårdens IF today and Mikael Samuelsson signed with Genève-Servette
     
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    Just thought I'd add that the Czerkawski deal with DIF is for the full season and is not pending on the lockout.
     
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    Players playing in Europe especially Czerkawski

    First things first, I find it interesting that this gets posted right after I mentioned that I will fight this every step of the way.

    Fact #1 Czerkawski has played for this team before...got his start with them.

    Fact #2 Czerkawski has an ex-wife and a kid in Sweden.

    Conclusion, would you not want to see your daughter as much as possible knowing that there will not be an NHL season because the owners and players will not come to some agreement? Look at when he signed, one week before the lockout began.
    Does that really look like a person who had the intent of signing with an European team? I say no. Don't go saying oh the rules say this the rules say that. This will be the silliest season if you look at it that way. Get your head out of your ass and get past it. Excuse my harsh language but I'm sick of all this crap. Keep it simple, leave the elligibility alone for this year or its going to be one huge mess. Hell we can't even get the season started on time every year and if we're going to nit pick over a simple fact that a player has chosen to be close to his daughter rather then sit out a year and make nothing, then I will walk and leave some other GM to take over my team and go find another league to build a good team.

    Quite frankly its probably jealousy that gets this brought up time over time. This will be my second season with this team and I made it to the final eight already with a team that finished last the year before. What have you done? Nothing...So leave my team alone and stop stiring up crap. Oh and in the event that Czerkawski can't play...do you think that hurts me? Hell it makes me stronger by giving me the opportunity to get a similar player at either a lower salary and have Czerkawski on my prospect list...all while saving money...so go ahead make my day and choose your own adventure. My team will still beat yours everyday of the week.

    Oh and if you think there's going to be any hockey besides what you see in Europe, the Ahl, OHL, CHL and other crappy leagues before January 2006 you've got another thing coming. Players making 1.8 mil don't need the cash and they've got a reserve fund for those that do need the cash...oh wait they can just go to Europe and play too. What do you propose we do next year when players like Spezza's ratings come up, do we lower them cause he played in the AHL?

    Sorry for the long rant but this topic has gotten my blood boiling. I found out why Czerkawski made the decision to play in Sweden...perhaps you should look it up. Get your facts straight. Leave everything as is except for players who have blatantly retired. Keep it simple!

    So what's t going to be commish? Make a ruling and lets get this settled once and for all.

    GM Dryden Lewis
    one pissed off individual
     
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    Wow, Dry - who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?

    Huh? Where did you say that? I don't see you having written in this thread prior to this, and certainly not prior to the Czerkawski announcement... maybe I missed it.

    OK... sorry, but what's your point? I didn't see anyone make any judgements about Czerkawski's signing in Europe, just reporting the contract. It's very nice that Mariusz is being a good dad - I wish more were. I just have no idea what that has to do with his being available or not for the HFNHL.

    OK, I see more where you are coming from here - but how would you propose we distinguish between players who "had the intent of signing with a European team" from those that didn't? Seems to me you either set a deadline (which is consistent with our past seasons), or you make an exception this year and let everyone play, regardless of where they are in the world.

    It's something far more insidious than that, Dry - it's GEOGRAPHY. The guys posting this announcement live in Scandinavia, and get local coverage of these things. North American coverage is inconsistent at best. I for one appreciate getting the local updates. It's pretty spectacluarly rude of you to go off on these guys for posting this update, especially making it personal. That's not usually your style, so I'll chalk it up to an honest mistake, but either way I believe an apology is in order.

    I have yet to hear anyone suggest anything to the contrary. Anywhere. Frankly we'll be lucky to see NHL (or whatever they end up calling it) hockey in 2006. Still don't see what this has to do with the rest of your post, but I guess when you get going on a rant, you really get going!

    Apparently.

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    My understanding is that all players will be eligable with the exception of those who played in Europe last year i.e. the Tverdoskys of this world. So, no need for concern Dryden. I know where you're coming from - exceptions to the rule apply in this exceptional year. The posts in this thread are more for interest sake than anything else.

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    So, what will happen with all these players? I still see Forsberg, Salo, Morozov, Arvedsson, Czerkawski, etc. on the rosters from Jan 23rd? Will they be allowed to play in the HFNHL or will they be moved to the prospect list, like what would have happened in the previous seasons?

    If they'll be taken off the rosters, it'd be nice to get that done asap in order to make it easier to see the current rosters of the teams.
     
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    My understanding is that they will not be removed if they played in the NHL last year. Lets get some confirmation either way.

    Kruegs
     
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    Espen Knutsen left already last season to sign with Djurgården in the SEL but he is still on my roster. Freddie B, the goalie sign in Russia in early summer and should also be removed. I have no plans to pay salaries for those two players.
     
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    As I see it, there's no reason why we should make any changes to the way it's been done in the previous years. Keep the same deadline and remove the players that have signed on for europe without a lockout-clause.
     
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