Discussion in 'Basketball' started by Taro Tsujimoto, Dec 7, 2017.
Pretty disappointing return for the Sixers imo. I think it’s clear that Colangelo waited too long to trade Okafor.
russell and okafor on the same team lols
He’s an awful GM.
Yeah, think Philly might have got fleeced a little here, let's see what happens.
Seems like a very good risk for NJ and an incredible waste of an asset (in the sense of what they could have got last year for him) by Philly.
Not surprised as Coangelo was a god awful GM in TO and Phoenix but if all you are getting back is Booker why not keep (and play) Okafor or just cut him? I don't see why they held on to him in the offseason if the plan was to not play him and then trade him for peanuts (or less than peanuts) in December.
Amazing deal for the Nets. Booker was a free agent signee who was over performing and really not much more than a starting filler on a perennial bad team.
Okafor showed some great potential his rookie season and he has a legitimate chance to shine, going to take some time for him to get back into the swing of things after riding the bench but if he doesn't work out, all they gave up was Booker. Stauskas could still be a decent player and like Okafor, should get plenty of playing time on the Nets. At the end of the day, they gain a second for Booker which is a good deal on it own.
Okafor and Stauskas suck.
Nice GIF, pal. Obviously Jah and Nik are just great players given how they dominated the league on the lowly Sixers.
There’s a lot of real estate between “sucks” and “great player”. Okafor has shown that he can be a consistent scorer in the low post. He’s not shown that he can be a good defender or rebounder, but he did come into TC in much better shape than his first two seasons. In pre-season he was clearly more mobile and active. He needs coaching but he is potentially a legit starting NBA center. His game may not be in vogue these days but if a team is willing to gear their offense to him he will be effective.
Stauskas is a guy who can do a bit of everything but doesn’t do anything particularly well. His three point shooting was just below the league average last season, not bad really but given that that was supposed to be his strength, disappointing. On the other hand, he has a decent handle, can get to the rim, and is a pretty good passer. Defense is probably a bit below average but he does try. He could certainly be a useful guy coming off the bench if he can get more consistent on offense.
Neither of them suck though.
Idk, I feel like NBA fans kind of forget how useless Jahlil Okafor is since the 76ers stopped playing him. Everyone seems to feel bad for him. Sure, he can score a bit in the post. But he's giving that all back plus more with his absolutely awful defense, while providing no rim protection at all.
Nik might be a fine 11th guy off the bench idk. He's not good.
Okafor played good his rookie year. He just got screwed the following season when Embiid was finally healthy enough to play.
Stauskas too... last season he averaged 9.5PPG/2.4APG/2.8RPG but lost his playing time when they signed Reddick.
Got screwed? Jahlil didn't get screwed out of anything. This is what I'm talking about with the fans feeling bad for him. Good for him for putting up decent numbers with high usage on a team that went 10-72. Doesn't mean he was good whatsoever. Still has arguably been the worst defensive player in the league since his career started, which is exactly the opposite of what you want at that position. Can't pass or score efficiently either. What good is throwing it to Jahlil in the post going to do for any team in this day and age? He's a complete ball stopper cause all he knows how to do is post up. His game is literally just that, cause he doesn't offer anything else.
Not surprised an OKC fan is defending a ball stopper though. You gotta watch it 82+ times a year.
Embiid being healthy did screw him. he lost his starting job and the development/coaching staff likely stopped caring about his development and potentially improving his defensive skills or any other areas he was lacking. He was pretty much left in limbo and it culminated this year when he barely touched the floor.
We'll see how he does now that there is a chance to play more.
He lost his minutes to a better player. This happens everywhere, I don't know why Okafor gets all the sympathy from everyone. Still played a bunch in the second season. Didn't look any better.
This trade was just bad asset management. Why give up a 2nd with him and Sauce just to get Booker? Better off just waiving him.
Booker is worth at least a 2nd on his own, and this way they cleared two salaries from their books. Waiving Okafor or Sauce Castillo would have salary cap repercussions, even if they are minimal. 76ers wanted some sort of asset back given they were trading a young player, and they screwed themselves by waiting this long. They didn't wait to trade Noel and as a result got a decent return back.