Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by leafaholix*, Mar 16, 2006.
for those who have seen both play this season, more than once.
this is going to turn out Leafs fans vs. Habs fan plus Devils fans.
I'll take Perezhogin.
i think the Perzhogin vs. threads have went from one extreme to the other, vs Zherdev, now vs Suglobov.
Actually, Suglobov vs Perez is pretty fair & equal.
The other one was ridiculous.
This one is as ridiculous, this isnt even close. Perezhogin by a fair margin.
For the record, I'd take Perezhogin as well but the hype on this kid is beyond unreal - he isn't exactly lighting the world on fire.
Theres no hype other then from a few Habs fans. This guy is most likely going to be a top 6 forward who uses his blazing speed and good hands to gather up some points. Suglobov is what? 24 year old soon to be UFA? You're comparing an almost bust with 2 NHL games to a guy who's in the NHL right now and was picked at 19 on the Russian roster. C'mon even Jason Ward and Marcel Hossa have more potential then Suglobov. Thats why the Devils only got Ken Klee.
How surprising, yet predictable.
Perez, but by a very tiny margin
I don't see sugo being anything more then sergei berizen if he ever gets out of the ahl. And im a devils fan and i've said that before. Good luck t.o
Soon to be UFA? In what , 3 years.
And Perezhogin is what, all of a 1 1/2 year younger? He's done dick squat to say it is unquestioned that he will be better. Btw, given that Perez is all of a 1 1/2 year younger, is he also on the cusp of a UFA?
Perhaps, but if so that aint bad & also I would have a little better read if he gets at least one decent shot. That really hasnt matereialized yet. I suspect it will next year.
Suglobov hasnt played in the NHL regularly.
Thread wont go anywhere.
I like Suglobov more, but right now Perezhogin is the better prospect.
Oh I agree, but its not an obscene comparison right now either.
For a moment i thought you just described Brad Boyes.....look at him now...some players take longer to develop...being from montreal i still choose Suglobov by a small margin
I'll break my rule of not choosing a side in a leaf player vs other player and pick Perezhogin, but a big *** to Jason Ward and Marcel Hossa having more potential then Suglobov.
I don't know what the obession with Perezhogin is lately. The kid is highly skilled and has been a standout player at every level but the NHL. Yes he's a rookie but he's been in a massive slump for months. He started off the season great on the Koivu line but since then he's struggled to find his role and has done next to nothing on the ice other then skate fast and work hard. He's not creating much offense although he has looked better in the last few games imo.
I never understood the need to compare one player to another but to each his own. Zherdev and Suglobov are both solid hockey player imo. Zherdev put up similar numbers as Perezhogin in the RSL but Perezhogin faired better internationally for the Senior National team during Euro Cup and with the junior club. (although perhaps Zherdev had a better U-18 and Perezhogin had a better U-20 but I only saw Perezhogin with the U-20 team and he was injured the first year and imo was great the 2nd gold medal)
In the NHL Zherdev has blown away Perezhogin and proven he's a full time NHLer, whereas Perezhogin there's still major doubts about what he can do in the NHL.
Suglobov I have not seen too much of, but from the little I know, I believe Perezhogin has outproduced him at the RSL level and internationally with the Senior and Junior teams. I know Suglobov was having a great rookie year in the AHL but got injured, whereas Perezhogin struggled at first but in the 2nd half he went on a tear with Hamilton and up until the stick swing incident he was leading his team in goals in the playoffs and was in the top 5 in rookie scoring in the AHL with 50 pts.
So Zherdev is already an established NHLer, highly skilled
Perezhogin has shown he's able to score at every level but the NHL (7 goals in 50 games isn't that bad, just that he's had 1 goal in the last 2-3 months)
Suglobov has shown he also can score and after watching him score last night, he's clearly got some real nice hands.
why could perezhogin only manage 2 points in 11 games in the ahl this season?
it's called a slump, hockey players go through them from time to time. There's also a thing called hot streaks, like the one he had with Hamilton as a rookie where he got 2 hattricks in one week.
He's only had 2 pts in the NHL and 2 pts in the AHL for the last 3 months, which is even more awful. He's got skills but has been completely ineffective at producing much of any sort of offense. Last year in Russia he was among the top scorers in the league when many NHLers were there, so no doubt he has skills just has been in a huge slump.
well, there must be something wrong with him if he's slumping in the ahl. something major with his confidence.
It happens, especially with rookies...he's showed signs lately or breaking out, so we'll see...
It happens, no need to worry IMO...hell, Pavel Vorobiev is nowhere to be found after a hot start.
I dont think its as much about confidence as it is about being comfortable on the ice. Ever since Claude Julien messed up with him playing 1min a game, he looked out of place. THen he came back form his stint in the AHL and performed really well, he's been having a lot of chances, its just that nothing goes in right now.
Of course, now that Suglobov is Leaf property, he has to be trashed in endless "vs." threads.
p.s....what the hell has Perezhogin ever done, exactly??
he scored some points in the russian league and has managed 15 points in 55 nhl games, plus 2 points in 11 ahl games this season.
why dont you check last years RSL statistics where he was nearly a point per game player and had made the all stars. Then go check his WJC's where he killed Canada and then afterwards why dont you check his amazing rookie season in Hamilton. And when he was suspended in the playoffs Hamilton just died, so he has done numerous things.