Proposal: Pens/Flames Blockbuster

Toby Flenderson

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Pitt has great RW depth, Flames have great LW depth. Let’s make a deal.

Phil Kessel
Jake Guentzel

For

Johnny Gaudreau
Sam Bennett



Johnny-Sid-Sprong
Hags-Malkin-Hornqvist
Bennett-Brass-Rust


Tkachuck-Monahan-Kessel
Guentzel-Backlund-Frolik


The reality of a trade this big happening is low but just for fun, who says no?
 

Empoleon8771

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It'd be a fair value swap IF Gaudreau and Kessel were the same age. Since Gaudreau is much younger, Calgary would obviously decline.

It wouldn't be fair if they were the same age, because Guentzel is insanely better and more valuable than Bennett. Gaudreau and Kessel would basically be a wash at the same age.
 

Big McLargehuge

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As much as the age factor is legitimate...I don't know if I see Gaudreau playing in Pittsburgh longer than Kessel is currently signed for anyway. Couple that with Guentzel being well above Bennett and I'll stick with the 'evil' I know.

For a big trade involving the Pens on this board, though, this is far closer to being fair than I'm used to seeing. My rejection is based more on where the teams are than based on one side clearly winning (Kessel doesn't make a ton of sense for Calgary either, unless you think they're a more legitimate contender than I do).
 
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wej20

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As much as the age factor is legitimate...I don't know if I see Gaudreau playing in Pittsburgh longer than Kessel is currently signed for anyway. Couple that with Guentzel being well above Bennett and I'll stick with the 'evil' I know.

For a big trade involving the Pens on this board, though, this is far closer to being fair than I'm used to seeing. My rejection is based more on where the teams are than based on one side clearly winning (Kessel doesn't make a ton of sense for Calgary either, unless you think they're a more legitimate contender than I do).

And how much would the Pens PP suffer without Kessel?
 

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Beddy Tlueger
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No thanks...Guadreau isn't much better than Phil to downgrade fron Guentzel to Bennett.
 

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Beddy Tlueger
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Hornqvist+Sprong

For Tkachuck, I love this player. Does all the things Hornqvist does but at LW. Hornqvist and Sprong most likely ain't enough, but don't know what else to add.
 

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Hornqvist+Sprong

For Tkachuck, I love this player. Does all the things Hornqvist does but at LW. Hornqvist and Sprong most likely ain't enough, but don't know what else to add.

Penguins just resigned Hornqvist. I guarantee no one will ever sign in Pittsburgh again if he's immediately traded
 

Sparky93

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No thanks to the OP, Phil would fail on Flames without the Star studded center depth. How about Murray for Bennett, a defensive prospect, not named Valimaki + one of the goalie prospects?
 

Empoleon8771

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No thanks to the OP, Phil would fail on Flames without the Star studded center depth. How about Murray for Bennett, a defensive prospect, not named Valimaki + one of the goalie prospects?

I genuinely can't think of a single reason that the Penguins would even remotely consider that offer. This entire post is just horrible.
 
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Beddy Tlueger
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I genuinely can't think of a single reason that the Penguins would even remotely consider that offer. This entire post is just horrible.

I like how he said Phil would fail without a star centre. Lol....only had his career years with Bozak....

Or lead the playoffs in scoring with Bonino.


Only Flames player I'd trade Murray for is Tkachuck.
 

CaptainCrunch67

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Hornqvist+Sprong

For Tkachuck, I love this player. Does all the things Hornqvist does but at LW. Hornqvist and Sprong most likely ain't enough, but don't know what else to add.

A lot

I like Sprong, but right now Tkachuck is a huge core piece for the Flames, who's improving rapidly
 

CraigsList

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I like how he said Phil would fail without a star centre. Lol....only had his career years with Bozak....

Or lead the playoffs in scoring with Bonino.


Only Flames player I'd trade Murray for is Tkachuck.

You aren’t getting that kind of value with a goalie.
 

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Beddy Tlueger
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You aren’t getting that kind of value with a goalie.

I know. But that's only where i would trade him. Beyond his value.

Murray's very important to the pens success. The backups have been garbage. Jarry is decent but not nearly as good yet. Moving Murray makes the team worse.
 
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Hahaha nice try. Pitt would have to add a ton more. And Calgary would never give up Johnny for a guy who is already 30+. And would rather keep Bennett over getting Guentzel.
 

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