Proposal: Penguins and Derick Brassard

[PensArmy]

For the 3rd line center

Ottawa
Brassard

Pittsburgh
Filip Gustavson
Patric Hornqvist
2018 2nd rd pick
2019 3rd rd pick

OR

Edmonton
Mark Letestu

Pittsburgh
Riley Sheahan
2018 2nd rd pick
2019 3rd rd pick

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[Tom Hanks]

For the 3rd line center

Ottawa
Brassard

Pittsburgh
Filip Gustavson
Patric Hornqvist
2018 2nd rd pick
2019 3rd rd pick

OR

Edmonton
Mark Letestu

Pittsburgh
Riley Sheahan
2018 2nd rd pick
2019 3rd rd pick

Too much in both scenarios, way too much. Ottawa probably doesn’t want a UFA either (although I guess they can trade him at the deadline).

 

[Riptide]

For the 3rd line center

Ottawa
Brassard

Pittsburgh
Filip Gustavson
Patric Hornqvist
2018 2nd rd pick
2019 3rd rd pick

OR

Edmonton
Mark Letestu

Pittsburgh
Riley Sheahan
2018 2nd rd pick
2019 3rd rd pick

That 2nd offer is absolutely terrible for Pittsburgh. Sheahan has 10 pts in 24 games - 9 of which were in his last 14 or 15 games. He's on pace for 34 points since arriving in PIT. Not quite as much as Letestu, but whatever "upgrade" might be there is questionable at best... Moving him alone for Letestu is a loss due to their ages, contracts and RFA vs UFA status, let alone adding a 2nd and a 3rd to it.

The first offer doesn't make sense for either team. Pittsburgh won't be moving Hornqvist unless they absolutely have to, and Ottawa wouldn't be wanting the pending FA in Hornqvist.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Pittsburgh gives up way too many assets for a single player in both trades. I think the Penguins rather keep Sheahan than go for Letestu.

 

[PensArmy]

That 2nd offer is absolutely terrible for Pittsburgh. Sheahan has 10 pts in 24 games - 9 of which were in his last 14 or 15 games. He's on pace for 34 points since arriving in PIT. Not quite as much as Letestu, but whatever "upgrade" might be there is questionable at best... Moving him alone for Letestu is a loss due to their ages, contracts and RFA vs UFA status, let alone adding a 2nd and a 3rd to it.

The first offer doesn't make sense for either team. Pittsburgh won't be moving Hornqvist unless they absolutely have to, and Ottawa wouldn't be wanting the pending FA in Hornqvist.

but Ottawa could still turn around and flip Horny at the Deadline, Ottawa needs the picks they don't have a 1st or 2nd....

Do you want to resign Horny, or let him walk as ufa????

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

The second one is a good, well though-out, fair trade. No bias,

 

[66-30-33]

Pass on trading Horny. Trading Hornqvist is sending the wrong message, we need players who give a damn so trading him would mean we don't give a shit about working hard.

 

[Liver King]

would something around Brassard and Letang work?

 

[Extra Texture]

If the Pens get the ship righted, Brassard for Letang would be interesting, but the hole losing Letang opens makes things difficult. Then we're trading futures for another minute-eating D man, and everyone in the current D starts taking on alot more time. At the very least, its not possible until Schultz comes back and looks at home.

Brassard isnt the answer here. Until the team start performing as they should, all four lines and all the D pairs, then there is no point burnishing the team with excessive forward depth, as Brassard would do. This isnt fixable by a trade, its fixable by the players looking at themselves and pointing the finger in the mirror.

Pass on trading Horny. Trading Hornqvist is sending the wrong message, we need players who give a damn so trading him would mean we don't give a **** about working hard.

Cant be repeated and quoted enough.

If their answer to these current threats/the team's current funk is to trade the lunchpail guy who gives his all every night, then Mario's country club is back with a vengeance.

If he's not a Pen next year and he's still on affordable contract, there's something wrong with this team. More than any other player he's altered the chemistry and outlook of this team the last 3 years.

 

[PensArmy]

If the Pens get the ship righted, Brassard for Letang would be interesting, but the hole losing Letang opens makes things difficult. Then we're trading futures for another minute-eating D man, and everyone in the current D starts taking on alot more time. At the very least, its not possible until Schultz comes back and looks at home.

Brassard isnt the answer here. Until the team start performing as they should, all four lines and all the D pairs, then there is no point burnishing the team with excessive forward depth, as Brassard would do. This isnt fixable by a trade, its fixable by the players looking at themselves and pointing the finger in the mirror.



Cant be repeated and quoted enough.

If their answer to these current threats/the team's current funk is to trade the lunchpail guy who gives his all every night, then Mario's country club is back with a vengeance.

If he's not a Pen next year and he's still on affordable contract, there's something wrong with this team. More than any other player he's altered the chemistry and outlook of this team the last 3 years.

I agree I just worry about the term, would we want to do a $6m for 5-6 years, if he goes to market I could see him getting even more it only takes one gm

 

[Riptide]

but Ottawa could still turn around and flip Horny at the Deadline, Ottawa needs the picks they don't have a 1st or 2nd....

Do you want to resign Horny, or let him walk as ufa????

Pretty much every Pen fan should want to re-sign him - especially if the rumor about him wanting 5x5.5m is true.

 

[Riptide]

would something around Brassard and Letang work?

I don't think Ottawa could add enough for that to make sense - particularly the defenseman that they would need to add.

 

[BK201]

Ewwww

 

[Liver King]

I don't think Ottawa could add enough for that to make sense - particularly the defenseman that they would need to add.

yeah makes sense, all we have is Claesson Harpur and Ceci

 

[Empoleon8771]

I'd be very interested in Brassard, but I don't know how it could realistically be done. I don't think Ottawa would be interested in Sheary as the first piece for Brassard, and I wouldn't be comfortable with doing Maatta because of Brassard's age.

I'd rather go after Pageau to be honest.