Patrik Laine Part V: The Man with the Golden Stick

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Howard Chuck

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For Some reason Matthews in now again superior to LAine with same points in 7 more games.

hmmmm..

Yeah Laine needed to have at least 7 to 10 points lead. As the ROY was anointed to Matthews at the start of the year.

As good as Matthews - Bobcock is really playing him to get the best on all his shift. That's what great coach does.

Remember during Teemu's rookie season when he had to learn to play on a different wing and then we broke him up from playing with Housley, and then on top of it all he spent a lot of his time working on his defensive play?

:sarcasm: :nod:
 

Trilliann

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Nope, but even when Matthews slumps, he contributes and looks good (with the exception of the few stinkers he had a week or so ago). The fact of the matter is, you can count the bad games Matthews has had with one hand. Laine...not sure if two hands are enough. When Laine isn't putting the puck to the net you look at him and think "How the **** does he have 34 goals?". I was referring more to how Babs handled Nylander. He put him through a pretty rough school, throwing him around the lineup and straight up saying that he needs to be better. And he is.

Maurice did put Laine into a position to succeed, which i am pretty happy about, but did it come too easily for him? I would've whined more if he didn't, but it might've been worth it in the end.


Well, I'm probably reading too much into things. He does have 34 goals in his rookie year so...pretty ****ing good. But i can't help but feel it could've been even better. I'll just have to be patient. I don't think he'll be able to get strong enough to make a difference this summer, but maybe the next.

You're spending too much time in the Calder thread, at least you sound like it. Jeez
 

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If you go it, you got it. I don't know if Maurice is the right coach, but he has 34 goals

I think you're the only Laine fan that overly criticizes him
You almost sound like a Leafs/Matthews fan with the amount of little criticism he's getting
Matthews has a year of professional experience over Laine
Laine didn't get drafted to be Mario Lemieux like some people started comparing him too

He was drafted because he knows how to score goals, is 6'5
and because he played in finland he knows what defense is

Remember he's 18 and the responsibilities/expectations you're expecting from him probably aren't as expected from everyone else

"score goals and keep back checking"

Maybe now we'll see some more polishing since it's a lost season

What I'm most excited for is to see his skating get better and see what he can do with those passes

He's got top tier passing and elite shooting
What more do you want from an 18 year old winger? Not everyone's Sidney Crosby or McDavid. Not even Matthews who's like .80 points per game
Now he's learning to play D in the NHL against NHL caliber players.
 

Artorius Horus T

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The mighty have fallen...anyone remember the good times
when Laine used to score goals,..now i know he wasn't
playing good hockey to begin with,hasn't really found a
60 min game, not even once this season,
but still...he scored lots of goals and points
nevertheless.

Last 13 games,3...3!!! measly goals,with 1 assist,
oh my effin god!.What the h happened to Laine,
he is a complete shadow of himself
what he was last season at this time of the year.

Laine sucks so bad at the moment,without his goals
and points,he is useless,shouldn't realy play in the NHL.

Had high hopes before the season,looked really good early on,
he gave big fu for all the doubters and Auston fanboys,
led the league in goals,in many occasions,had few slumps,
but not really big ones,scored hat tricks with relatively
good pace,about 15-20 games ago i really believed he had
a chance to score 50 this season and i'd had hit the sweet
spot with my before the season prediction.

Before the season i predicted Laine would score 50 goals,with 100 points,
people thought i was crazy,now the latter (100) might of been a stretch,
but the 50,...surely possible.

Now...season is over...meh season from Laine overall,..
34 goals so far,most likely won't even hit 40 this season,
34 might be his total number,so bad he is playing right now.

My rating from Laine's rookie season: C+

These players have 28-30 goals or more this season
(compared to these players,Laine is way better
and the goals between them shouldn't be like this,
Laine should of scored way more goals than these)

Draisaitl (EDM) 28
Lee (NYI) 28
Simmonds (PHI) 29
Marchessault (FLA) 29
Arvidssson (NSH) 29
Kadri (TOR) 30
Rakell (ANA) 31
Carter (LAK) 31
Skinner (CAR) 31
Oshie (WSH) 32
Pastrnak (BOS) 34
Atkinson (CBJ) 34
Pacioretty (MTL) 34

I think it was a big mistake from Laine going
to other side of the pond this early,he just wasn't ready,
i thought he was,i was wrong,should of waited at least 1 year,
should of gotten his body ready,his mind ready for full 82 season
i hope he didn't ruin his career by entering the NHL too soon.
 

thistleswamp

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The mighty have fallen...anyone remember the good times
when Laine used to score goals,..now i know he wasn't
playing good hockey to begin with,hasn't really found a
60 min game, not even once this season,
but still...he scored lots of goals and points
nevertheless.

Last 13 games,3...3!!! measly goals,with 1 assist,
oh my effin god!.What the h happened to Laine,
he is a complete shadow of himself
what he was last season at this time of the year.

Laine sucks so bad at the moment,without his goals
and points,he is useless,shouldn't realy play in the NHL.

Had high hopes before the season,looked really good early on,
he gave big fu for all the doubters and Auston fanboys,
led the league in goals,in many occasions,had few slumps,
but not really big ones,scored hat tricks with relatively
good pace,about 15-20 games ago i really believed he had
a chance to score 50 this season and i'd had hit the sweet
spot with my before the season prediction.

Before the season i predicted Laine would score 50 goals,with 100 points,
people thought i was crazy,now the latter (100) might of been a stretch,
but the 50,...surely possible.

Now...season is over...meh season from Laine overall,..
34 goals so far,most likely won't even hit 40 this season,
34 might be his total number,so bad he is playing right now.

My rating from Laine's rookie season: C+

These players have 28-30 goals or more this season
(compared to these players,Laine is way better
and the goals between them shouldn't be like this,
Laine should of scored way more goals than these)

Draisaitl (EDM) 28
Lee (NYI) 28
Simmonds (PHI) 29
Marchessault (FLA) 29
Arvidssson (NSH) 29
Kadri (TOR) 30
Rakell (ANA) 31
Carter (LAK) 31
Skinner (CAR) 31
Oshie (WSH) 32
Pastrnak (BOS) 34
Atkinson (CBJ) 34
Pacioretty (MTL) 34

I think it was a big mistake from Laine going
to other side of the pond this early,he just wasn't ready,
i thought he was,i was wrong,should of waited at least 1 year,
should of gotten his body ready,his mind ready for full 82 season
i hope he didn't ruin his career by entering the NHL too soon.

LoL!
This is some high level satire, Well done.
 

TiimuSeLaine

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The mighty have fallen...anyone remember the good times
when Laine used to score goals,..now i know he wasn't
playing good hockey to begin with,hasn't really found a
60 min game, not even once this season,
but still...he scored lots of goals and points
nevertheless.

Last 13 games,3...3!!! measly goals,with 1 assist,
oh my effin god!.What the h happened to Laine,
he is a complete shadow of himself
what he was last season at this time of the year.

Laine sucks so bad at the moment,without his goals
and points,he is useless,shouldn't realy play in the NHL.

Had high hopes before the season,looked really good early on,
he gave big fu for all the doubters and Auston fanboys,
led the league in goals,in many occasions,had few slumps,
but not really big ones,scored hat tricks with relatively
good pace,about 15-20 games ago i really believed he had
a chance to score 50 this season and i'd had hit the sweet
spot with my before the season prediction.

Before the season i predicted Laine would score 50 goals,with 100 points,
people thought i was crazy,now the latter (100) might of been a stretch,
but the 50,...surely possible.

Now...season is over...meh season from Laine overall,..
34 goals so far,most likely won't even hit 40 this season,
34 might be his total number,so bad he is playing right now.

My rating from Laine's rookie season: C+

These players have 28-30 goals or more this season
(compared to these players,Laine is way better
and the goals between them shouldn't be like this,
Laine should of scored way more goals than these)

Draisaitl (EDM) 28
Lee (NYI) 28
Simmonds (PHI) 29
Marchessault (FLA) 29
Arvidssson (NSH) 29
Kadri (TOR) 30
Rakell (ANA) 31
Carter (LAK) 31
Skinner (CAR) 31
Oshie (WSH) 32
Pastrnak (BOS) 34
Atkinson (CBJ) 34
Pacioretty (MTL) 34

I think it was a big mistake from Laine going
to other side of the pond this early,he just wasn't ready,
i thought he was,i was wrong,should of waited at least 1 year,
should of gotten his body ready,his mind ready for full 82 season
i hope he didn't ruin his career by entering the NHL too soon.

I kept looking for : :sarcasm: to no avail.
This has to be sarcasm, right? :laugh:
 

winnipegger

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Matthews will win the calder. Can't say I'm disappointed with Laine though. The ceiling on his game is kind of scary....

He still gets pushed around a bit because he is so lanky. I am looking forward to when he is as strong as Adam Lowry. They are both the same height. Laine's skill with Lowry's brute strength is going to be something to be watch.
 

Kaako Kappo

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Matthews will win the calder. Can't say I'm disappointed with Laine though. The ceiling on his game is kind of scary....

He still gets pushed around a bit because he is so lanky. I am looking forward to when he is as strong as Adam Lowry. They are both the same height. Laine's skill with Lowry's brute strength is going to be something to be watch.
Matthews was going to win it anyways. Im more bothered by the weak games Laine has had these last few weeks.
 

KingBogo

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Matthews was going to win it anyways. Im more bothered by the weak games Laine has had these last few weeks.

It looks like he is starting to run out of gas. Next year he will be another step further along and will be a joy to watch. He will never maximize on points unless he plays with Scheifele however.
 

MardyBum

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Anyone who's seen the Moose this year would understand, even if they're not getting points, it can't be stated enough how important puck moving dmen are for players like Laine, Scheif, Wheeler, Ehlers, etc who like to create off the rush.

Outside of the PP success of the Wheeler unit, how many 2-1's 3-2's have we had in the last dozen games? Nothing compared to when we had Buff/Enstrom/Trouba/Morrissey/Postma

Even last night, you figure with Buff on the ice, we'd be okay, but someone pressures him, he passes it off to Melchiori, who proceeds to fumble the puck right into a Devils player when he had all the time in the world to make a play.

Was a bit better yesterday, but guys like Melchiori and Stuart are a negative on puck moving, and Melchiori is getting quite a bit of ice time.
 

PhilJets

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The mighty have fallen...anyone remember the good times
when Laine used to score goals,..now i know he wasn't
playing good hockey to begin with,hasn't really found a
60 min game, not even once this season,
but still...he scored lots of goals and points
nevertheless.

Last 13 games,3...3!!! measly goals,with 1 assist,
oh my effin god!.What the h happened to Laine,
he is a complete shadow of himself
what he was last season at this time of the year.

Laine sucks so bad at the moment,without his goals
and points,he is useless,shouldn't realy play in the NHL.

Had high hopes before the season,looked really good early on,
he gave big fu for all the doubters and Auston fanboys,
led the league in goals,in many occasions,had few slumps,
but not really big ones,scored hat tricks with relatively
good pace,about 15-20 games ago i really believed he had
a chance to score 50 this season and i'd had hit the sweet
spot with my before the season prediction.

Before the season i predicted Laine would score 50 goals,with 100 points,
people thought i was crazy,now the latter (100) might of been a stretch,
but the 50,...surely possible.

Now...season is over...meh season from Laine overall,..
34 goals so far,most likely won't even hit 40 this season,
34 might be his total number,so bad he is playing right now.

My rating from Laine's rookie season: C+

These players have 28-30 goals or more this season
(compared to these players,Laine is way better
and the goals between them shouldn't be like this,
Laine should of scored way more goals than these)

Draisaitl (EDM) 28
Lee (NYI) 28
Simmonds (PHI) 29
Marchessault (FLA) 29
Arvidssson (NSH) 29
Kadri (TOR) 30
Rakell (ANA) 31
Carter (LAK) 31
Skinner (CAR) 31
Oshie (WSH) 32
Pastrnak (BOS) 34
Atkinson (CBJ) 34
Pacioretty (MTL) 34

I think it was a big mistake from Laine going
to other side of the pond this early,he just wasn't ready,
i thought he was,i was wrong,should of waited at least 1 year,
should of gotten his body ready,his mind ready for full 82 season
i hope he didn't ruin his career by entering the NHL too soon.
Laine for Hyman

Go for it....
 

Joe Hallenback

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The mighty have fallen...anyone remember the good times
when Laine used to score goals,..now i know he wasn't
playing good hockey to begin with,hasn't really found a
60 min game, not even once this season,
but still...he scored lots of goals and points
nevertheless.

Last 13 games,3...3!!! measly goals,with 1 assist,
oh my effin god!.What the h happened to Laine,
he is a complete shadow of himself
what he was last season at this time of the year.

Laine sucks so bad at the moment,without his goals
and points,he is useless,shouldn't realy play in the NHL.

Had high hopes before the season,looked really good early on,
he gave big fu for all the doubters and Auston fanboys,
led the league in goals,in many occasions,had few slumps,
but not really big ones,scored hat tricks with relatively
good pace,about 15-20 games ago i really believed he had
a chance to score 50 this season and i'd had hit the sweet
spot with my before the season prediction.

Before the season i predicted Laine would score 50 goals,with 100 points,
people thought i was crazy,now the latter (100) might of been a stretch,
but the 50,...surely possible.

Now...season is over...meh season from Laine overall,..
34 goals so far,most likely won't even hit 40 this season,
34 might be his total number,so bad he is playing right now.

My rating from Laine's rookie season: C+

These players have 28-30 goals or more this season
(compared to these players,Laine is way better
and the goals between them shouldn't be like this,
Laine should of scored way more goals than these)

Draisaitl (EDM) 28
Lee (NYI) 28
Simmonds (PHI) 29
Marchessault (FLA) 29
Arvidssson (NSH) 29
Kadri (TOR) 30
Rakell (ANA) 31
Carter (LAK) 31
Skinner (CAR) 31
Oshie (WSH) 32
Pastrnak (BOS) 34
Atkinson (CBJ) 34
Pacioretty (MTL) 34

I think it was a big mistake from Laine going
to other side of the pond this early,he just wasn't ready,
i thought he was,i was wrong,should of waited at least 1 year,
should of gotten his body ready,his mind ready for full 82 season
i hope he didn't ruin his career by entering the NHL too soon.

I can hear you huffing and puffing as you typed this with sweat pouring down your face as you reach for another cheeto with orange stained fingers. Some where in the background several cats run by through a bachelor sweet weaving in and out of piles of pizza boxes.
 

Neuf

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Hoping for a strong finish, but his totals right now are more than i expected going in.

Calder was supposed to be consolation for this crappy season, but looking like the Toronto boy is heating up again. Both deserve it.
 

EhlersPLDConnor

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Laine deserves a rest, he's played over 100 games in the past year. He should skip World Champs imo, then come back and torch the NHL next season
 

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I really wonder what he's being coached to do. I know what PoMo says, but I don't believe him.

Many times there is play going on in the O zone and Laine is on the ice but he isn't even on my TV screen. He's hanging back playing quasi-defense.

I'm sure they want him to be well rounded, but I hope we don't round the offensive star power right out of him. Not everyone has to play a 200 foot game, some players are simply goal machines, which is the most rare commodity in the NHL.

Wrong wing (I know some are going to argue with this, but it's been a factor throughout his career), coaching decisions and inept PP utilization. It's like you have someone give you a ferarri but you use it to pick up lumber at home depot.
 

JetsFan815

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I really wonder what he's being coached to do. I know what PoMo says, but I don't believe him.

Many times there is play going on in the O zone and Laine is on the ice but he isn't even on my TV screen. He's hanging back playing quasi-defense.

I don't think that's on coaching. No other winger on the Jets does that
 

winnipegger

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I just feel like they are telling him Defense first.

One of the reasons Patty is so good is that he doesn't play kids soccer out there. He's not just chasing puck battles around the ice, he's sliding into spots where if the puck is won by his team mate he is in a place to receive a pass. I have a feeling this works better with Schief than with Little because Scheif just has way better vision on the ice.
 
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