Mackiaveli
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First off, I want to address the garbage idea that Max disappears in the playoffs before people start throwing a fit.
He absolutely was a ghost last season, but if you look at the greater picture of his playoff career, he posted solid post-season stats in both 2014 and 2015. His shooting %age, total shots, and point per game averages in the Habs two (somewhat) successful post-season runs quite closely reflect the point totals of players like Carter and Kopitar outside of their one amazing playoff run where they both clipped in at above a point per game.
People can choose to look at his most recent season to define his playoff contribution potential, but I can cherry pick back to back showings from even the most elite of playoff contributors such as Patrick Kane to show why a bad series is not indicative of a bad player.
The idea that he disappears in the playoffs and is a useless player when it matters is the 2018 version of "he is a perimeter player that got lucky" the first time he potted 30 goals.
He absolutely has value, and any intelligent GM in this league would happily trade for him at the right price. He is a two-way forward who regularly pots 30+ goals a season despite having average linemates and terrible centers. He is an all-purpose player who can be deployed in any situation, and effectively play at both ends of the ice.
On a team that struggles to score goals (LA) or a team that just wants to add another weapon to their arsenal for the next season (STL, EDM, ANA, DAL, CGY) he could be a perfect fit.
The other thing: The idea that he only has one year left on his contract, and thus he is less valuable, is also incredibly stupid. No NHL GM is going to trade for a player like Max at the draft looking at him as a one season rental, nor would Bergevin (I mean, I hope at least) be stupid enough to trade him at that value. The Habs could move him at a cap hit of 2.25m for the rest of this season, leaving a ton of wiggle room for teams to add at the trade deadline THIS year, but considering he will likely only ask for 6.5-7m next season, he can be fit under the cap of every team I named above.
The only team I would be (slightly) worried about is LA. This is simply due to the fact Doughty is up for a 3-4 million dollar raise the same time Patches would be asking for close to the same. They could easily do it, especially if they move a contract like Pearson or Phaneuf, but it wouldn't be so cut and dry.
Here are some trade proposals, what do you guys think the value of Patches or Patches + 4OA is worth at the draft? If you're going to say "he disappears in the playoffs we don't want him" just spare us both the time and don't bother lol
EDM: Klefbom + Puljujarvi for Patches + 4OA
DAL: Gurianov, Honka, Dallas's 1st for Patches + 4OA (Gurianov has struggled since being drafted)
STL: Fabbri, Kyrou and Thompson for Patches + 4OA (Fabbri is coming off of a season long injury, Thompson has struggled at the NHL level)
ANA: Sam Steel, Max Jones for Patches + 4OA (Neither Steel nor Jones has played a game in the NHL)
CGY: Rasmus Andersson, Dillon Dube, TJ Brodie for Patches + 4OA + two of this years second round picks
He absolutely was a ghost last season, but if you look at the greater picture of his playoff career, he posted solid post-season stats in both 2014 and 2015. His shooting %age, total shots, and point per game averages in the Habs two (somewhat) successful post-season runs quite closely reflect the point totals of players like Carter and Kopitar outside of their one amazing playoff run where they both clipped in at above a point per game.
People can choose to look at his most recent season to define his playoff contribution potential, but I can cherry pick back to back showings from even the most elite of playoff contributors such as Patrick Kane to show why a bad series is not indicative of a bad player.
The idea that he disappears in the playoffs and is a useless player when it matters is the 2018 version of "he is a perimeter player that got lucky" the first time he potted 30 goals.
He absolutely has value, and any intelligent GM in this league would happily trade for him at the right price. He is a two-way forward who regularly pots 30+ goals a season despite having average linemates and terrible centers. He is an all-purpose player who can be deployed in any situation, and effectively play at both ends of the ice.
On a team that struggles to score goals (LA) or a team that just wants to add another weapon to their arsenal for the next season (STL, EDM, ANA, DAL, CGY) he could be a perfect fit.
The other thing: The idea that he only has one year left on his contract, and thus he is less valuable, is also incredibly stupid. No NHL GM is going to trade for a player like Max at the draft looking at him as a one season rental, nor would Bergevin (I mean, I hope at least) be stupid enough to trade him at that value. The Habs could move him at a cap hit of 2.25m for the rest of this season, leaving a ton of wiggle room for teams to add at the trade deadline THIS year, but considering he will likely only ask for 6.5-7m next season, he can be fit under the cap of every team I named above.
The only team I would be (slightly) worried about is LA. This is simply due to the fact Doughty is up for a 3-4 million dollar raise the same time Patches would be asking for close to the same. They could easily do it, especially if they move a contract like Pearson or Phaneuf, but it wouldn't be so cut and dry.
Here are some trade proposals, what do you guys think the value of Patches or Patches + 4OA is worth at the draft? If you're going to say "he disappears in the playoffs we don't want him" just spare us both the time and don't bother lol
EDM: Klefbom + Puljujarvi for Patches + 4OA
DAL: Gurianov, Honka, Dallas's 1st for Patches + 4OA (Gurianov has struggled since being drafted)
STL: Fabbri, Kyrou and Thompson for Patches + 4OA (Fabbri is coming off of a season long injury, Thompson has struggled at the NHL level)
ANA: Sam Steel, Max Jones for Patches + 4OA (Neither Steel nor Jones has played a game in the NHL)
CGY: Rasmus Andersson, Dillon Dube, TJ Brodie for Patches + 4OA + two of this years second round picks
