Out of town thread: Where the grass is ALWAYS greener!

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    Agreed...now you may understand why I wasn't all that interested in bringing him back at any cost
     
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    Oilers are really hurting for some NHL level wingers
     
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    Damn, that was a short homecoming to LA for Cammalleri
     
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    Man there's nothing like the land of Radulov is just a complimentary player but Benn is a SOLID first pairing dman.

    I would love to live in this land.
     
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    Speaking of Radulov, 9 points in 9 games now
     
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    Habs 4 Life No Excuses

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    But our GM offered him a contract !!!!!! Too late but he did......
     
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    Maybe if our GM would of traded Plekanec 3yrs ago like I suggested and was laughed at, he wouldn't be paying him 6M a year to Plekanec to push the puck to center ice every shift...

    And instead they wouldn't of had to nickle and dime Radulov
     
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    Arizona is making the Avs awfulness last year look like child's play.
     
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    Weber was a (stupid) win now move, Drouin was a (stepping sideways) political one to placate a certain section of the fan base.
     
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    MaxPacwhereishe Kirk Muller peut po embarquer sua patinoire

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    We have more than enough space to fit Radulov. MB did nickel and dime Radulov anyways. We have the space even with Plekanec at 6M.
     
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    Habs will lose to them on Thursday, believe me...
     
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    Bergevin press conference the next day: "Ever since I've been here, we have never won a game against Arizona on a Thursday in November when the chefs made the players omelettes. It's why I didn't have any expectations".
     
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    Not when we still need another top 6C and top 4D

    Nope

    But it's ok....I was ridiculed then, kinda like I am now.

    We'll see if history repeats itself, I'm good at playing the long game.
     
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    It's on me.... -Marc Bergevin

    Yes we know that's why we want you fired.
     
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    Kimota KING IN THE NORTH!

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    Fire Bergevin and use the fact that Dallas sucks to get Radu back. What does Dallas need.
     
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    Dallas was supposed to be the perfectly built team based on their offseason, Radulov being the crown jewel.

    If he can't prevent that mighty Jim Nill built team from being awful.

    What makes you think he could do different on the Habs?

    You think he can make that much of a difference
     
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    I think the standard you are setting is an argument in bad faith. If the criteria for a successful transaction is a piece that makes us a contender nothing short of acquiring Crosby/McDavid is worth exploring? Since at this point we are multiple pieces away from being a contender.

    Currently our lineup needs the following to be considered a contender(imo) :

    Pacioretty - 1C - Gallagher
    Lekhonen - Galchenyuk - Drouin
    Byron - Danault - Shaw

    1D - Weber
    Alzner - 4PMD
    Schlemko - Petry

    It's safe to say we don't have the prospects or extra players to acquire such assets. Holding your breath for UFA Tavares is like the Leafs doing the same for Stamkos.

    The point being acquiring Radulov makes us a better team as no player available (within our reach) will turn us into a contender. If the objective is to ice the best team possible our GM royally failed.
     
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    Well it's not like he would make us worse. Look at what he did for us last year.
     
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    Whitesnake How many years?

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    Not sure where you got that impression. Having a very good offseason does not mean that the team is perfectly build. You really think that the D squad is perfect? You don't think there was question marks at goalie. And that the forward situation still needs some improvement? So having a great offseason does not mean having a perfect team....
     
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    January 5 2003? 13 years? You sir are something special. I consider leaving this forum and it's been not even 5 years lol. Respect
     
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    Well this offseason...that's what I was told.

    That the additions of Bishop, Methot, Hanzal and especially Radulov were the type of moves that showed just how great Jim Nill was, that's what I was told.

    I remember questioning how good Bishop really was, how Methot would fare away from EK and how Radulov, while being a good player, can't change an entire teams fortune on his own.

    Oddly Enough, that's exactly what we're seeing in Dallas.

    Alot of people lament the loss of Radulov and I'll say it right now, if I had known the alternative would be nothing, I'd never have been so vehemently opposed to NOT committing beyond 3yrs...

    However, I STILL maintain that this GM needs to focus on acquiring a player who can star/lead for this team and I don't think Rads is that player.

    The Habs do not have a Seguin or Benn or league leading PP here.

    If Radulov would be on this team as we speak, I STILL think we'd be a .500 hockey team but we'd also be a capped out .500 hockey team.

    And that's not a more desirable outcome for me.

    That's as a diplomatic of a post on the topic as I can make.
     
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    Radulov has points in 9 of his last games but he actually has 13 points in his last 9 games.

    Those numbers....so complementary.
     
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    Well, you should consider the Hanzal move a good one, being that you argued for it several times in the summer, especially after we lost Radu for nothing.

    http://hfboards.mandatory.com/posts/134611021/

    I'm confused, is this a bad move now or what? Because I argued against signing Hanzal. He's not a good player.

    McDavid seems to be struggling with changing an entire teams fortunes on his own. The idea that this happens is a fiction, and a convenient one for you. ''Look guys, Radulov can't do this impossible thing therefore adding a player who could put up 50-60 points to our team that struggles with scoring would make no difference.''

    It was repeatedly explained to you in the off-season that there was, realistically, no replacement for Radulov. You just kept listing the best available alternative until there were no alternatives left. This is you being bad at the long game.

    The GM needed to make a choice. Rebuild, or go for it. He did neither. Focussing on getting a star/leading player is going to do nothing. You need a plan. The most concrete plan for getting a star player is to rebuild.
     
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    I may have been wrong about Hanzal...that's fine, despite what you claim, I don't claim to be right all the time or be flawless in my predictions

    I'm not a freaking Oracle or fortune teller.

    We're weak down the middle, I suggested this offseason we get rid of Plekanec and use Hanzal in the role Plekanec is currently playing.


    I don't know what part of this ludicrous post you want me to address...

    The part where you're comparing McDavid and Radulov?

    Or the weak *** strawmen you attempted to craft in your quotation?

    My premise is very simple to understand, I don't think Radulov does much for this team, you add him to this exact lineup and I still think we're a .500 team, just like the mighty Stars are.

    And we'll continue to be a .500 team untio the GM addresses the center ice and the Defence.

    Radulov for all his wonderful qualities, does NOT address ANY of those needs, he just makes addressing those needs all that more difficult.

    And I'll repeat what I retorted this offseason, there were and are replacements for Radulov, we're not talking about replacing Guy Lafleur here, it's not my fault the GM seems incapable of doing something, that's on him, not me.

    So focusing on getting a star/leader is going to do nothing.

    But re-signing Radulov is going to do what exactly?
     
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