Out of Town Scoreboard 2017-18 season III: Stanley Cup Playoffs

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JrFischer54

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I have to ask what is with this defense of the offsides calls?

We got hosed pretty good during the regular season on offsides calls that took points away from the Devils.

Many here aren't too enamored(to be kind) with offsides reviews and all that.

You are probably the only one who doesn't really mind Toronto determining a Playoff game.

And I don't like it that they can do it, Period. Whether it's in regulation or OT.

And Football is Football. I could care less what THEY do.

I only care what is happening in Hockey.


so lets eliminate all reviews then right? call on the ice stands for everything? because if you want to go back to the "old" way all those video reviews being done were being done through toronto and by toronto. so you dont watch any football or root for any football or anything? then i guess that doesn't apply to you
 

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Agreed 100000%.

The NHL offsides review may be the dumbest thing I've ever seen in all of sports. Taking goals (and sometimes wins) off the board because they spend 5 minutes scrutinizin video at 1/32 speed and 8x zoom to determine that someone's toe was a hair's length over the blueline before the puck. The spirit of the offsides rule is to prevent cherry picking and teams getting too easy of an advantage on offense. I think it's safe to say that someone's skate beating the puck into the zone by 1/16 of an inch provides zero distinguishable advantage to the scoring team.

The NHL loves talking about "the spirit" of the CBA when it comes to randomly punishing a team for cap circumvention, but they take a huge steaming pile of crap on the spirit of the game reviewing offsides in this manner. I'd say it's really disgraceful, but may that's just my opinion.


i'm going to assume your another person that "doesnt watch football"? they seem to be fine with a hair out of bounds and spending mins getting the call right?


also the caps review last night was about a min long so not sure the "horror" in taking a min to get the call right?

i'm not defending the offsides either. i dont like it but guess what its part of the game! so until its out of the nhl deal with it and might as well get the call right
 

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Dude with all due respect this comes across as petty. There's no league wide agreed upon conspiracy to gift the Penguins the cup. Hell they only had one in Sid's first 8 years before they won these last two. There's plenty to dislike about that team without going full blown tin foil hat. You make it sound like they are just some middling team that mysteriously wins, as opposed to a team that has two of the greatest centers to ever play, and a boat load of other elite / top 6 forwards.
As great as he is (and as much as I loath him I absolutely think he belongs with Gretzky, Mario, Howe and Orr when discussing the greatest players ever) if you don't see that there is one set of rules for Crosby and another for the rest of the league I don't know what to say. I still remember the game 6 at Nassau in 2013 where in OT he should've been penalized for a ridiculous dive but the Isles got the penalty instead and the Pens won the game and the series.
 

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As great as he is (and as much as I loath him I absolutely think he belongs with Gretzky, Mario, Howe and Orr when discussing the greatest players ever) if you don't see that there is one set of rules for Crosby and another for the rest of the league I don't know what to say. I still remember the game 6 at Nassau in 2013 where in OT he should've been penalized for a ridiculous dive but the Isles got the penalty instead and the Pens won the game and the series.
Getting breaks on calls from different refs because you're the darling superstar of the league is not akin to a league wide conspiracy to ensure the team he plays for wins the cup.

Some of you guys need to get a grip.
 

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i'm going to assume your another person that "doesnt watch football"? they seem to be fine with a hair out of bounds and spending mins getting the call right?


also the caps review last night was about a min long so not sure the "horror" in taking a min to get the call right?

i'm not defending the offsides either. i dont like it but guess what its part of the game! so until its out of the nhl deal with it and might as well get the call right

The Out of bounds rule in football exists in a completely different context than the offside rule in hockey. The blue line is not a boundary. Its purpose it to deter cherry picking and unfair advantages in the o zone. It was never intended to be scrutinized down to a fraction of an inch, because that slim of a margin provides no discernable advantage to the scoring team. There's no comparison there to out of bounds in football sorry. And even if there is, that doesn't make the offside review any less mind numbingly stupid.
 
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The offsides review rule is the textbook example of the law of unintended consequences. It was intended to correct Leon Stickle type errors but instead is being used on calls that if there was no replay nobody would even notice.
 
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The Out of bounds rule in football exists in a completely different context than the offside rule in hockey. The blue line is not a boundary. Its purpose it to deter cherry picking and unfair advantages in the o zone. It was never intended to be scrutinized down to a fraction of an inch, because that slim of a margin provides no discernable advantage to the scoring team. There's no comparison there to out of bounds in football sorry. And even if there is, that doesn't make the offside review any less mind numbingly stupid.


I hear you, but the rule says what it says and has to be enforced that way. I don't think there is a spirit of the rules variable for this. The league will have to revisit this issue and hopefully it cleans it up a bit but as for the video aspect, I'm not sure that the time to look at it will change much. If the league mandate is to scour the video then that takes the time it takes. I don't love it but at some point the calls for and against on video should even out. One thing I would change is to put a chip back in the center of the puck and sensors on the goal so that a shot like Wood has can be evaluated without having to see if a black puck is over the line while mixed up in the black part of a jersey.
 

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The Out of bounds rule in football exists in a completely different context than the offside rule in hockey. The blue line is not a boundary. Its purpose it to deter cherry picking and unfair advantages in the o zone. It was never intended to be scrutinized down to a fraction of an inch, because that slim of a margin provides no discernable advantage to the scoring team. There's no comparison there to out of bounds in football sorry. And even if there is, that doesn't make the offside review any less mind numbingly stupid.


the blue line is definitely a boundary.
 

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In other news.

Nashville just recalled their secret weapon...

Anders Lindback!

So naturally I'm tagging @Bleedred so I get only the finest Blimpback chirps.
He's still in North America and back in the Preds organization? Good god.

Did Saros lose a couple limbs? You'd need to lose a couple of them to be as bad as Lindback,
 

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Tonight and last Leafs/Bruins games are a good example of what I say about single game stats regarding goaltending or any position.

On Saturday night Andersen allowed like 3 goals on 6 shots or maybe it was even 4 goals on 8 shots? I didn't think he had a chance on any of them.

Tonight he allows on 2 goals on 42 shots and both were terrible, but they were the only goals he allowed tonight and they won the game. Probably correcting the numbers a bit. Didn't deserve to be dinged as bad as he was last game and probably didn't play quite as good tonight as he did on paper.
 

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@Bleedred You think maybe there is something to "having the last change" playing a major role in a team's chances at winning?

(yeah it didn't help the Crapitals but it's the Crapitals)


BTW, Anaheim is done. Poor Rico. :(
 

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@Bleedred You think maybe there is something to "having the last change" playing a major role in a team's chances at winning?

(yeah it didn't help the Crapitals but it's the Crapitals)


BTW, Anaheim is done. Poor Rico. :(
Didn’t seem to help Carlyle when he had last change at home over the weekend.

Carlyle sucks and Anaheim also has a lot of trash eating minutes for them. Bieksa, Beauchemin is really falling apart.
 
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Not an out of town game, but could very likely affect one tomorrow night. If this is a severe injury, Gudas may have played himself off the team for next season.



 
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