Out of these Guys...

Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by Qubax, Jan 30, 2004.

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  1. Qubax

    Qubax Registered User

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    ...From the 2003 draft, how many realisitcally will make the NHL and how many will be impact, Top 6 Forwards...THanks

    Horton
    Parise
    Kastsitstyn
    Pouliot
    Brown
    Bernier
    Pushkaryev
    Glazachev
    Vrana
    Khomutov
    I.Mironov(Ott)
    Filewich
    Ruczika
    Dawes
    Chernykh
    O'Sullivan

    Thanks for all the imput. I really appreciate it
     
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    Qubax Registered User

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    I guess I'll take a crack at my own here

    Horton 1st liner
    Parise 1st/2nd liner
    Brown 2nd Liner
    Bernier 1st/2nd liner
    Pushkaryev 1st/2nd liner
    Kastsitsyn 2nd liner
    Dawes 2nd liner
    O'Sullivan 1st/2nd

    is this to optimistic?
     
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    Bump Brown and Kastsitsyn to 1st liners imo.
     
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    Yeah thanks Moose fan...I highly respect your opinion and feel similar about Bernier....I know he had a slow start back with Moncton and was hurt so never had a WJC chance(he was hurt right)

    Well even if he wasn't hurt I herad he wasn't geting serious consideration...

    I know that Bernier has had those problems with fitness but he look slike Iginla or Shanahan in there hey days burgeoning up the wing and riffiling a shot on goal...

    I have hi hopes for Bernier too...

    Interesting you list Pouliot..I to like him but I think he might be a bit flimsy...who would you compare him too....Gagne?

    Thanks
     
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    These guy's are a lock
    Horton 1st line
    Parise 1/2 line
    Kastsitstyn 1/2 line
    I.Mironov(Ott) 2/3 line

    These guy's are 50/50
    Filewich 3/4 line
    Pouliot 2/3 line
    Brown 2/3 line
    Bernier 2/3 line
    O'Sullivan 1/2line

    Maybe 2 of these guy's will have decent careers
    Pushkaryev
    Glazachev
    Vrana
    Khomutov
    Ruczika
    Dawes
    Chernykh
     
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    A noticeable omission from your list is Dustin Brown, did you overlook him on
    the 'surefire nhlers' list because he's already in the show?
     
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    There's a big difference between an "impact player" and a "top 6 forward"... I don't think any of these guys are franchise-best-player-on-a-good-team style players (like Modanos or Sundins) but...

    Horton: 1st line.
    Parise: 1st or 2nd line.
    Kastsitsyn: 2nd line.
    Pouliot: upside is 2nd line but may have trouble establishing himself due to his defensive play.
    Brown: 2nd or 3rd line.
    Bernier: 3rd line.
    Vrana: 2nd or 3rd line.
    O'sullivan: 2nd line.
    Dawes: 2nd or 3rd line.
     
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    it should be noted that more than one scout said that if not for glazachev's attitude\tendency to dive, he likely would have been a first rounder, with an enormous skillset. given the fact that the Preds LACK a player of his type outside Shishkanov(pure offensive sniper,) i'd call him a pretty sure bet to make the NHL. His drawbacks are the sort of thing that Trotz is known for working out.
     
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    Well, he's a boom or bust player. We haven't been known to gamble like this before. I like it.
     
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    about Pouliot, I think this year though he is injured alot, alot of people have not had the chance to really see this guy play, IMO he is one of the best playmakers and passers in the QMJHL, very exctiting to watch and a great stickhandler and knowledge of where to be on the ice. He doesn't back down from rough play I find. I really like him, Gagne to me is more of a sniper based rather than a playmaker, but he does look like Simon Gagne a bit out there, but I think Pouliot has better smarts than Gagne and better playmaking skill.
     
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    OMG I wasn't even thinking of Dustin Brown, I thought it was a different Brown....LOL...oops. Brown should be there as he is already in he NHL now.
     
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    Yeah see here's my take on the thee Power Forwards from the list

    Horton is at worst gonna be a Shanahan, Iginla Type....Top 3 or 5 Powerforward in the league. He could also be a Thornton, Lindros(in the early years)

    Horts is a winger and not a centreman so I figure his chance of being a Thornton is low and I think Nash is better then Horton IMO...

    But Horton sure fire

    Bernier....Boom or Bust...Boom is Shanahan, Iggy type....but is 3rd, 4th liner or out of the NHL

    Brown....MOre sure fire then Bernier...but more of a Deadmarsh, second teir power winger. I think that's pretty much his upside is Deadmarsh type. Which is 1st / 2nd liner...Could also be Ethan Moreau....Which is more of a role player type thing
     
  14. Legionnaire

    Legionnaire Kill! Jeff, Kill!!!

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    Which is an amazing feat considering he is the second youngest player to ever play for the team. The Kings don't like to force their younger players into high pressure situations, prefering to give them some time to develop. So for Brown to make this team at 18(almost 19) really says something about his maturity.

    I really like what I have seen so far this year from DB. He hasn't been lighting it up, but he has been doing all of the little things. He has been taking and giving solid hits, creating space for his teamates, and really just driving opposing players nuts which has led to them taking penalties. The little things.

    I don't know his future for sure(he seems to have good instincts around the net) but he will definatley be a player in this league (at some level) for the next ten years. The kid is a little bull!
     
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    Thats about right. He does have a great shot though.
     
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    There is no doubt that Brown will be a quality NHL player. What is yet to be determined is if Brown will become a quality NHL scorer. As you mentioned, he does have a great shot so that should make him become a decent scorer at the NHL level.

    I am thinking he will be a 20/25 goal scorer who plays a hard nosed,gritty game and is a solid complimentary player on a scoring line.
     
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    That's why I thought that Qubax was right on. Deadmarsh type(he has a good shot too) but at the very least a Moreau type(which ain't toooo bad)
     
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