Mattavarner
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Line Combos: Our Lineup When We're a Consistent Playoff Team
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I really believe Hyman is a long term thing, people getting their hopes up of him being placed properly he will still be on Matthews wing.
LeafsNation149
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That's basically my projected lineup as well, minus Rychel. Seen him play a few times, don't expect him to make the NHL as a regular over Martin
I think Hyman sticks while JVR becomes the left winger. Since Matthews is the best on the team in generating scoring chances, a strong retriever and net presence is required.
JVR - Matthews - Hyman
This line up will allow Hyman to play on his natural side as well.
Marner, on the other hand, is likely being paired with Kadri or Nylander in the long-run.
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JVR - Matthews - Marner
Brown - Kadri - Soshnikov
Leipsic - Nylander - Kapanen
Martin - Gauthier - Hyman
Leivo, Johnsson
Rielly - Zaitsev
Gardiner - Nielsen
Dermott - Carrick
Valiev
Andersen
Bibeau
Non core guys eventually get replaced by guys like Timashov, Dzierkals, Korshkov, Brooks, Grundstrom instead of locking money into replaceable players.
Kadri/Nylander lines could easily be flipped, but see Kadri getting slightly more icetime in a matchup game and Nylanders line more of an offensive sheltered scoring line like how the Bozak line is currently being used.
Brown - Kadri - Soshnikov
Leipsic - Nylander - Kapanen
Martin - Gauthier - Hyman
Leivo, Johnsson
Rielly - Zaitsev
Gardiner - Nielsen
Dermott - Carrick
Valiev
Andersen
Bibeau
Non core guys eventually get replaced by guys like Timashov, Dzierkals, Korshkov, Brooks, Grundstrom instead of locking money into replaceable players.
Kadri/Nylander lines could easily be flipped, but see Kadri getting slightly more icetime in a matchup game and Nylanders line more of an offensive sheltered scoring line like how the Bozak line is currently being used.
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Hyman's only there right now because there is no other option at LW. Once Kapanen comes in, you have someone to play with Nylander, and can move Matthews up to play with JVR.
Feel bad for Kadri though, he might be stuck with him
I'm projecting for next season and added a couple UFAs/trade scenereos to even out the roster because I don't think all the young guys on the roster this year will be in the mix next season.
JVR-Matthews-Marner
Sharp-Nylander-Brown
Komarov-Kadri-Kapanen
Martin-Gauthier-Hyman
Reilly-Stone
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Marincin-Oduya
Carrick
Andersen
Greiss
JVR-Matthews-Marner
Sharp-Nylander-Brown
Komarov-Kadri-Kapanen
Martin-Gauthier-Hyman
Reilly-Stone
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Marincin-Oduya
Carrick
Andersen
Greiss
Why? Because he's there this year? None of us know what the Leafs plans are going forward.
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The lineup needs to be a hell of a lot better than that. That is basically our current roster, and we are in last place. You gotta dream bigger.
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I should hope in a few years, we have a vastly different looking lineup than we have there. You are forgetting both Grundstrom and Korshkov who will be both ready to come over after their contracts expire in 2018
I'll also try to make a guess in who we draft this summer in the first round based on need or expected draft position.
Mittelstadt/Strome. Matthews. Marner
Korshkov. Nylander. Bracco
Grundstrom. Kadri. Kapanen
Soshnikov Hyman. Brown
Rielly
Zaitsev
Gardiner
Lindgren
Nielsen
Dermott
With Hyman being a great energy guy with experience at C, to keep him in the line up, I moved him to 4C just because I know Babs loves him and Gauthier hasn't done enough to show me, he will ever be a regular NHL player
Top 4 d I like, stone actually makes them a top 4 d. I keep Carrick but hopefully marincin is gone, id rather give loov,valiev, Nielsen, Dermott a shot then watch marincin anymore. Like the first line, I would have kapanen play with nylander and Leipsic or Rychel and brown with kadri . Not to sure on sharp but I can see lou bringing in a vet who can actually contribute.
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I like mental excercises but this one is a little futile.
It's basically picking from what we already have.
To be a consistent playoff team there is going to need to be another infusion of talent. Be that drafted or traded. And it's going to take players like JVR and Kadri to get the traded ones.
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The process of picking players is definitely tough. Good on your for trying to do that and sticking with current players.
The Leafs will be a bottom 10 team in the league again this year. Their defense simply isn't good enough to hang in a playoff race down the stretch. When other teams are required to turn it on, I don't think that the Leafs could do that.
So the priority this off-season will be to shore up the back end. And I think that there will be a lot of moving parts because of the expansion draft.
And I think it's the right time to overpay for a defenseman. And I'm not talking about getting a guy like Manson. I'm thinking along the lines of Chris Tanev or Colton Parayko. The reason that I feel it's a good time to overpay is because I think you've settled on what forwards you want to keep going forward as your core. You've established that with Marner, Matthews & Nylander. The tougher question is what do you do on the back end. I think we've liked what we've seen out of Zaitsev and Rielly. But beyond that, you run into a lot of question marks. Gardiner is dynamic with the puck, but I don't think that Babcock loves his defensive play.
I also think that you need to get good reliable defensive defencemen that can play. Polak, Marincin, Corrado, & Hunwick are all interchangable. If you still want to develop Carrick, then you keep him on as a #5-6 guy and let him play to his strengths. Play him beside a guy like Kyle Quincey, Trevor Daley, or another solid veteran on a short term deal.
My ideal line-up next year would be:
Soshnikov - Bozak - Marner
Nylander - Matthews - Niederreiter
Hyman - Kadri -
Martin - *** - Brown
*Trade Komarov+ Leipsic + picks&prospects for Neiderreiter
Rielly - Tanev
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Daley - Carrick
Andersen
*backup (Bibeau or other cheap 1 yr tender)
I'm not sure the price on Tanev, but I think the Leafs have to realize that they aren't going to get every top prospect into the line-up. So whether you maximize value on Jeremy Bracco because you don't see him in the line-up, or you sell off Andreas Johnnson or Tymashov, I think you need to start to turn the corner with the guys that you selected.
The Leafs will be a bottom 10 team in the league again this year. Their defense simply isn't good enough to hang in a playoff race down the stretch. When other teams are required to turn it on, I don't think that the Leafs could do that.
So the priority this off-season will be to shore up the back end. And I think that there will be a lot of moving parts because of the expansion draft.
And I think it's the right time to overpay for a defenseman. And I'm not talking about getting a guy like Manson. I'm thinking along the lines of Chris Tanev or Colton Parayko. The reason that I feel it's a good time to overpay is because I think you've settled on what forwards you want to keep going forward as your core. You've established that with Marner, Matthews & Nylander. The tougher question is what do you do on the back end. I think we've liked what we've seen out of Zaitsev and Rielly. But beyond that, you run into a lot of question marks. Gardiner is dynamic with the puck, but I don't think that Babcock loves his defensive play.
I also think that you need to get good reliable defensive defencemen that can play. Polak, Marincin, Corrado, & Hunwick are all interchangable. If you still want to develop Carrick, then you keep him on as a #5-6 guy and let him play to his strengths. Play him beside a guy like Kyle Quincey, Trevor Daley, or another solid veteran on a short term deal.
My ideal line-up next year would be:
Soshnikov - Bozak - Marner
Nylander - Matthews - Niederreiter
Hyman - Kadri -
Martin - *** - Brown
*Trade Komarov+ Leipsic + picks&prospects for Neiderreiter
Rielly - Tanev
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Daley - Carrick
Andersen
*backup (Bibeau or other cheap 1 yr tender)
I'm not sure the price on Tanev, but I think the Leafs have to realize that they aren't going to get every top prospect into the line-up. So whether you maximize value on Jeremy Bracco because you don't see him in the line-up, or you sell off Andreas Johnnson or Tymashov, I think you need to start to turn the corner with the guys that you selected.
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To be a consistent regular playoff team more then 1/2 our current D-core would need to be repealed and replaced with better player personnel.
Leafs defense is among the weakest group of 8 in the NHL.
Leafs need a Shea Weber type dominating Dman to play big minutes in all situations.
Leafs defense is among the weakest group of 8 in the NHL.
Leafs need a Shea Weber type dominating Dman to play big minutes in all situations.
i think wings fans were saying he would pick a player to play way over his head and it will frustrate us, when babs signed. I bet he stacked the lines like now when we are 2-3 goals behind and its probably too late.
Suntouchable13
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Ewww, you have Bozak as the top line C again. That's not a playoff team either. Once Matthews and Nylander develop into a bona fide #1-2 C tandem + when we get some D help, that's when we'll be a consistent playoff team. None of this Bozak being the #1 C crap.
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