Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by komisakick ass, Feb 5, 2006.
What is his upside?
Is he gonna be a 60pts, 70pts or 80pts player?
What's your thought on him?
hes a great young player, and loves to stand on the left side of the net on the PP, right across from crosby. If he can stay up with the pens and on crosbys wing, he could be a consistent 100 point guy. He makes great cross crease passes and knows how to finish, but will be the biggest threat on the PP.
Only way he scores 100 points is if guys like Crosby are putting up 150+ points. Ouellet is a PP specialist, putting himself in good position infront of the net for rebounds and cross crease passes. Those players point potentials are harder to judge, because they are so reliant upon the rest of the team. I think 30 G 20 A is reasonable. He could go higher, could never stick in the NHL.
Ouellet will never get 100 points imo, 70 points is even a little too much.
Oullet = Crosby's Warren Young.
How about Ouellet + Crosby = Mario + Kevin Stevens?
No, Stevens benefitted a lot from playing with Mario, but Stevens also made a lot of room for himself and his linemates with his size and strength. Ouellet is a lot different, he's more of an opportunist.
ouellet's a smart player, but he's no star. he'll top out at 70 pts i think.
Wow. That's one of the worst overestimations I have ever seen on a player.
A CONSISTENT 100 point player!?!?!?
Who in the world NOW is a consistent 100 point player? Jesus H Christ, man. Get a grip on reality!
Ouellet MIGHT be a 50 point player without someone of the magnitude of Crosby on his line. He can probably hit 70 points with him.
Ala Rob Brown. But a consistent 100 point guy? I'm still amazed someone even would suggest that.
Ouellet did'nt even do 100 points in the Q...
I liked him but it took him a lot of work to make it to the NHL. He could have a nice career but he won't be a star.
About 60 with 35-40 goals.
He could be a decent 2nd line supporting cast kinda guy.. But that's about it...
So you think the fact that he will probably play with Crosby or Malkin in his career will help him to put 70pts!
You don't think he can put more?24 pts in in 27 games so far in his rookie season...this is a pace of 72 pts for 82 games.
you don't think he can be a 80-90 player?
I think with no Crosby or Malkin he is a 60pts but with one of these 2 guys, I can defenitly see him as regular 80pts player
Do am wrong?
He won't be there, though, because Pittsburgh WILL find better options. If they can't, than they are in trouble.
He's a good guy to have on your team, but he's not going to be a 90 point star player.
And I forget to say that is with 15min a game
The best comparison I've heard is Ray Sheppard.
Ouellet isn't good enough a skater to be a top echelon scorer. He's got good hand though and a knack fro the net, which makes him a great component on the powerplay, and thats where his career lies.
You might see him pull out one really big year numbers-wise during his career, but generally I'm thinking a 35-25 guy. Useful scorer.
That's exactly who I was trying to think of.
I'm a bit young to remember him so I cant say
But I will believe you
If Ouellet can improve his skating, do you think it will really help him or he just don't have the top end talent?
wow did i ever get flamed. I am basing the 100 pt /season estimate on the fact that crosby will be up around 140-160 in his prime. Like alot of players who played with the greats, I think oullet will be a great scorer. He needs to work on his skating, but he is a sniper for sure and is a perfect compliment for crosby. Without crosby i say he ends up with 50-60 pt a year. Hes still young, who knows, i mean if he played the full season this year hed be projecting about 75 points, as a rook, is it too farfetched to suggest hed be at 100 in his prime, honestly?
You didn't get flamed. Getting flamed would involve insults and no one is insulting you.
You aren't just saying he'd be at 100 in his prime. You're saying he'll be a CONSISTENT 100 point player, which is absolutely freaking absurd.
what is the difference between "in his prime" and being a consistent point getter. In your prime (between 24 and 35 IMO) is when he will be putting up these numbers IMO. Im sure he'll have bad years or so, but i think he will be putting up extremely good numbers in those years, when hes in his prime. With higher scoring and being on a line with the best player in hockey (thats right, i said it), i think oullet will be a top 10 scorer in the league for years to come.
If you think he's going to be putting up 100 point seasons from those years, than I think you're in that boat alone and that that boat is ONLY sailing to the looney bin.
"i think oullet will be a top 10 scorer in the league for years to come"
Wow. Talk about overhyping.
That's a good comparison, I can also see him having that one really big year as well. I think Ouellet can stick with the Pens for a while, he has improved his skating and worked dilligently on the other areas of his game each season.
an interesting note to add is since ouellet was called up december 16th, the penguins powerplay has gone 23.4%. prior to that it was at 14.9%. however, that was also the same date that michel therrien started his tenure, so there's no way of knowing whether it's due more to therrien or ouellet, or crosby getting more comfortable or whatever else could have happened.