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Xokkeu

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Yeah, I don't really hate throwball, but no doubt I hate the Donkeys. I hate how much coverage they get. I hate how I have to listen about Tim Tebow burritos on the local news. Now though the NFL doesn't really interest me in even hating it, they're already conducting self-suicide. NBA is getting on my nerves a lot more, I don't know how people can want to waste their time by watching super teams. Super teams should be in international competition, not domestic league.


I actually don't disagree with this. :laugh:

Last year might have been the most boring NBA season in recorded history. This year there's at least some minor interest with Oklahoma and Houston sorta trying to challenge the Warriors but yeah we all know how this ends.
 

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Yeah I checked out of the NBA during the Laker dynasty years. The Warriors ironically are what kinda brought me back although I hate them now.
 

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Soccer is a very different skill set. Not sure Lebron or many of the football players would be elite at all. Of all of them I'd say Patrick Kane probably would be the best soccer player

There would definitely be some elites. LeBron spent the last 20 years of his life perfecting his skills in basketball; if he concentrated 20 of those in soccer, you have no idea how skilled he would be (neither would I, but he'd be more skilled than he is today).

The US has over 3,000 professional athletes in other sports which blows away most soccer nations - surely 10-20 of those athletes would be better than what we have on our US roster.

I also disagree with soccer being mainstream in the US. There's recently published data that shows soccer players almost entirely come from the $100K+ household demographic in the US. Low-income households are still playing football, baseball, and other sports. Not entirely sure why but I have a few theories - 1) Football and baseball are bigger payoffs if kids can turn pro 2) football and baseball are just more visibile to the US youth via TV, internet, etc. 3) I think most affluent families do not want their kids playing football due to the concussions . I do think though - as this concussion stories starts to gather steam, you're going to see a lot more (and better) soccer players in the US.
 

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A lot of my buddies are convinced that we are already seeing the demise of football and basketball will overtake the NFL as the top sport in the next 10 years. I'm not sure I agree because of basketball's lack of parity, but I think the window is opening for some sport to overtake it.
If the NFL goes through a labor strike which I think is looming at some point, the floodgates will open for another sport.
 

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I actually don't disagree with this. :laugh:
"It's the most popular sport in the world you say? That what's in a hot dog? Only 144,000 will make it into Heaven? It will be the biggest sport in America?"

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Much as I admire Greg Popovich both as a man and a head coach I absolutely HATED to watch the Spurs. IMO the worst NBA era ever was when it was San Antonio and the Shaq/Kobe Lakers dominating the landscape.
Stern let the league atrophy around Jordan, so when he left it was just terrible. On top of that so many players started leaving school early and flaming out destroying the talent of college and the NBA without any kind of developmental alternative.
 
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There would definitely be some elites. LeBron spent the last 20 years of his life perfecting his skills in basketball; if he concentrated 20 of those in soccer, you have no idea how skilled he would be (neither would I, but he'd be more skilled than he is today).

The US has over 3,000 professional athletes in other sports which blows away most soccer nations - surely 10-20 of those athletes would be better than what we have on our US roster.

I also disagree with soccer being mainstream in the US. There's recently published data that shows soccer players almost entirely come from the $100K+ household demographic in the US. Low-income households are still playing football, baseball, and other sports. Not entirely sure why but I have a few theories - 1) Football and baseball are bigger payoffs if kids can turn pro 2) football and baseball are just more visibile to the US youth via TV, internet, etc. 3) I think most affluent families do not want their kids playing football due to the concussions . I do think though - as this concussion stories starts to gather steam, you're going to see a lot more (and better) soccer players in the US.

Soccer being mainstream was relatively to fanship not players
 

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I would think baseball and basketball would probably benefit the most from all the concussion stuff swirling around as far as youth participation. With boxing, MMA, football, hockey, and lacrosse probably suffering to some extent.

Soccer is also not without its own issues:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/u-s-high-school-soccer-concussions-on-the-rise/

It's funny because soccer began from suburban moms worried about their kids having too much pressure in baseball being such an individual sport. And now it might regrow because of injury concerns lol
 

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There are two types of countries in the world...

Those that love soccer...and those that have put a man on the moon.
 

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With Teddy B coming back to practice this week in Minny I'd hope Elway would make a call about one of their QB's. Bradford or Case would both be clear upgrades over Trev.
 

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Wow is all I've got after that Broncos game.

Siemian is complete trash, the guy is in way over his head. He can't even make the most basis of reads. He can complete 3 routes; a short slant, a quick out, and a dump off to a RB. That's it. If you're a defender pick one and defend it, you'll probably get an INT. On his pick 6, the defender jumped the slant. The thing that bugs me about it is watching the replay, DT is wide open 7 yards beyond that throw, but Siemain rushes the quick slant instead of assessing the play and seeing a wide open DT, just a few yards further down field. It would be one thing if DT is on the other side of the field wide open, but he was in a spot where Siemian should have been able to see him as he was in a direct line of vision.

Outside of Siemian, Anderson is complete trash, it's been 3 years now of not being able to convert 3rd/4th and 1 yard plays. Why isn't Charles a guy that averages almost 5 yards a carry throughout his career and has shown consistently over his career that he can get the tough conversions not getting the rock on those plays? That's just bad coaching.

Defense had a rough game, but at the end of the night they gave up all of 16pts. The pick 6 isn't on them. If your defense holds a team to 16pts on offense at home you have to win that game.

Well I hate to say it, but the 7-9 or 8-8 I predicted at the beginning of the year is looking like a good call. Hell I don't know if they can even get to 8-8 with Siemian leading the way.
 

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Wow is all I've got after that Broncos game.

Siemian is complete trash, the guy is in way over his head. He can't even make the most basis of reads. He can complete 3 routes; a short slant, a quick out, and a dump off to a RB. That's it. If you're a defender pick one and defend it, you'll probably get an INT. On his pick 6, the defender jumped the slant. The thing that bugs me about it is watching the replay, DT is wide open 7 yards beyond that throw, but Siemain rushes the quick slant instead of assessing the play and seeing a wide open DT, just a few yards further down field. It would be one thing if DT is on the other side of the field wide open, but he was in a spot where Siemian should have been able to see him as he was in a direct line of vision.

Outside of Siemian, Anderson is complete trash, it's been 3 years now of not being able to convert 3rd/4th and 1 yard plays. Why isn't Charles a guy that averages almost 5 yards a carry throughout his career and has shown consistently over his career that he can get the tough conversions not getting the rock on those plays? That's just bad coaching.

Defense had a rough game, but at the end of the night they gave up all of 16pts. The pick 6 isn't on them. If your defense holds a team to 16pts on offense at home you have to win that game.

Well I hate to say it, but the 7-9 or 8-8 I predicted at the beginning of the year is looking like a good call. Hell I don't know if they can even get to 8-8 with Siemian leading the way.

Took a date to the game last night, and that was some ugly business. (The game, not the date. :D)

Siemian really does stink. Of course, any number of NFL QBs do as well. But last night, he was particularly bad. In fact, the whole team was bad all around. Kind of hard to find anyone who played a really good game. Gotsis, perhaps? The Giants are basically playing college/FA receivers, and they did just fine last night. Everything was bad. And what in Hades is wrong with McManus?

Denver is now 3-2, with 5 of their next 7 on the road, including 3 straight games against KC, Philadelphia, New England - starting in two weeks. That's tough.
 

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Siemian sucks, but the running game is worse. I'm not sure if they gave the RB's 50 carries that they could have gotten 100 yards last night. At least Siemian throws the ball 50 times and gets 375. It's not hard to be terrible when everyone knows you're one dimensional and going to pass the ball.

I'm still mind boggled at their draft. I know a lot of people loved it, and Bolles was a 100% successful hit. But I haven't seen any of these other guys really make an impact. Maybe the PR who does nothing else but return punts (why not just get a specialist instead of trying to convert these guys into the 3 WR if they're never going to play anyways?).
This team still needs another OT, a new young QB (I've already written off Paxton), and some middle LB's. Instead we drafted a bunch of gadget offensive guys that were supposed to "spark the offense" but haven't even really seen the field 1/4 of the way into the season.
 
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