Speculation: Oscar Klefbom to NYR

Discussion in 'Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk' started by cheech70, Apr 15, 2018.

  1. charliemurphy

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    How much for Puljujarvi?
     
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    What makes you think the Flames will give one of their top prospects and another 1st when they need more draft picks for another small LHS forward? Especially seeing how he's a free agent and is going to be over 30 and needing a new contract.
     
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    I don't think some of you know Bernmeister... its best for all if you just scroll past.
     
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    If the Oilers trade Klefbom for anything other than a better Dman (obviously a plus on the Oilers side) then I will quit being an Oiler fan (and I have been an Oiler fan for more year than most of the posters on this board have been alive).
     
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    It would take a young top 4 D. The Oilers aren't really looking to move him, unless if they can get a young top 4 D back. When you look at the roster, the Oilers are severely lacking top 6 wingers. So trading away their best winger prospect wouldn't be the smartest thing to do this summer.
     
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    How is he not?

    What has Klefbom done to live up to his potential?

    He is a top 4 dman. That is all
     
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    Not really worth trading right now unless you're convinced he's a bust.

    He hasn't been good but he's still very young and has all the tools, hasn't really shown he has the tool box to put it all together so far.

    So the only reason you move him is if you're convinced he's a Rundblad and you want to get a Tarasenko before the world realizes he's a Rundblad.
     
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    The Rangers don't touch that deal with a ten foot pole.

    As much potential as Jesse has, he hasn't nearly lived up to it yet and Klefbom is a decent top-4 defender. There's no way I'd deal Kreider AND Zuccarello for that.
     
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    Potential does not equate to a top 4 defender. PJ is a guy they won't be able to move and get their expected return because he is more valuable to the Oil than a team trading for him.
     
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    Tough one for me. I would trade Zuc. in a second simply because when the Rangers compete again, he will obviously not be a part of it. He won't be resigned here.

    Kreider could potentially be the captain of this team in 2018/2019. He means a great deal to the NYR as his injury solidified the free fall and ultimately rebuild. He has good value as well. Playing w/McDavid he would be a beast. But, for the right offer, I think he could be moved. I'm not saying this is the right offer.

    I don't get too jacked up about the potential prospects have until they break into the league and actually do something. Some here might recall a guy named Yakupov?
     
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    If this is the return for Kreider, I'm ok with it.

    I'd rather deal them separately and get more.
     
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    What would Oilers fans realistically want for JP? I know he’s had a rough start since his draft, but what could be a fair value deal for him from the Rangers?
     
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    Since when is his nickname Zuke? When I type it in , I get a hockey player named Mike Zuke :huh:
     
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    Probably a young player further along in development?

    Unless it's a package for an actual upgrade, I don't see Puljujarvi being moved until the trade deadline/end of the season, and that's only if he doesn't take a step forward. He hasn't had a full season yet, so no real reason to give up on him.
     
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    What would be the Logic for Edmonton to get rid of Klefbom? They should be looking to add a top 4 defenseman, not get rid of them.
     
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    Zuccarello is not getting Fox and 1st won’t even get yo7 one of them
     
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    McDavid and kreider tho

    [​IMG]
     
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    Because our right side has
    Klefbom
    Nurse
    Sekera
    Russel
    Right side
    Larsson
    Benning
    Sekerahad a bad yr this year flyer surgery, if comes back healthy he is a good second pairing.
     
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    flames - win now mode
    Zuc helps at nice price
    first dibs option to extend

    Fox may not sign, could turn college UFA = loss of/reduced asset
    if he signs

    the pick is delayed a yr
    also it is one singe pick, not a slew of them

    ps - this was not my original thought
    there was some discussion of this in another thread

    you should be able to pick up nice W prospects this draft and next.
     
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    Zuc will command a later 1st in 2018.
    Flames have to delay 1st a year, so they have to add.

    Also, deal atm is for Fox rights, he hasn't been signed.
    Acquiring club would take on risk he goes back to college, decides UFA route.

    If you changed the equation by signing Fox, assuming he went there, then I'd add commensurately.
     
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    The trouble with this, TODAY, and again, this is a picture in motion subject to change, a Skjei who has 1LD written all over him and fitting that so far is worth more TODAY than a JP hit/miss. Puulj can still get to this ceiling, but acquiring team should not crazy overpay for that at this point. I would gamble on the rest of him, but his skating at a top level is possible, but not yet evident.

    Also, Skjeis do not grow on trees.
     
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    So a team that desperately needs D trades a D and doesn't even get one back.

    Did you even spend 10 seconds thinking how the Oilers would benefit from this prosposal?
     
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    Trading him for Kreider would be an okay move. Trading him and JP for Kreider and one year of Zuccarello would not be. Make it one for one, Klefbom for Kreider, and I would reluctantly accept, assuming that we have a deal for a #1RD at the draft.
     

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