Oscar Hedman
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This is an utterly shameless bump... but does anyone have thoughts on Hedman, post draft? Why did this guy go in the fifth round?
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Not sure myself, but here's Red Line's take on him in a recent draft chat:
USA, NY: You haven´t even MENTIONED Oscar Hedman who is one of the most gifted d-men in the whole draft. Have you missed him? -Gary
Kyle Woodlief: Haven't missed him. Just don't like him much. He's barely six-feet, a little bit overweight in my opinion, doesn't move his feet well in the defensive end at all, and is not real defensively aware. He does have good offensive instincts and is a fine puck distributor on the PP, so he might become a PP specialist at some point.
USA, NY: You haven´t even MENTIONED Oscar Hedman who is one of the most gifted d-men in the whole draft. Have you missed him? -Gary
Kyle Woodlief: Haven't missed him. Just don't like him much. He's barely six-feet, a little bit overweight in my opinion, doesn't move his feet well in the defensive end at all, and is not real defensively aware. He does have good offensive instincts and is a fine puck distributor on the PP, so he might become a PP specialist at some point.
Marshall said:
Somehow i rather listen to someone who knows more hockey than Kyle Woodlief like Anders Melinder. And its like he is talking about a different player.
Hedman is very allround. He is very aware defensively. He could handle it really well in SEL at least which is at a better level than where Kyle has ever seen him.
id also like to quote from a hockeypaper who covered the U18 WC:s "Oscar Hedman was one of the tournaments best defenseman. If Sweden had gone further the quarterfinals, he would have probably been a player for the All Star Team. He was definately better than Andy Rogers from Canada who took place there."
Andy Rogers is however big as a house. Go figure why he was picked in first round. NHL sucks and is digging its own grave.
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Barely six feet, well Brian Rafalski isn't even that big and he's considered an elite defenseman. But this size thing is getting ridiculous, it sometimes feel like they'd rather draft Hulk Hogan because of his size than an average size guy with skills. It's not like Hedman is a midget, like Theo Fleury.
Petey21 said:
Brian Rafalski and Martin St.Louis weren´t even drafted...
And ive noticed how everyone becomes a bit taller when they come over to NHL.
For example, Niklas Kronwall is listed 6´1", while over here he was 5´11". Forsberg was also 6´0", but listed 6´1" which he is not. Same with Andreas Salomonsson etc. Somehow they seem to grow a couple of centimeters when you jump the puddle.
Hedman drafted so late is shocking to me
I've watched him and he's impressive. Take a look at Sweden players recently. They may be the best players in the world. Naslund, Forsberg, Sundin, Lidstrom, Alfredsson and many more. Oscar Hedman in my draft books was ranked #15 overall. Yes, #15. The NHL moving towards 6'6 unskilled losers that clutch, grap and ruin the game. Well done by Washington as they did the best job. Bourque, Lepisto and hedman...as examples and well Schultz the gentle giant has some skill. These Andy Rogers are a joke being drafted in round 1.
I've watched him and he's impressive. Take a look at Sweden players recently. They may be the best players in the world. Naslund, Forsberg, Sundin, Lidstrom, Alfredsson and many more. Oscar Hedman in my draft books was ranked #15 overall. Yes, #15. The NHL moving towards 6'6 unskilled losers that clutch, grap and ruin the game. Well done by Washington as they did the best job. Bourque, Lepisto and hedman...as examples and well Schultz the gentle giant has some skill. These Andy Rogers are a joke being drafted in round 1.
braino said:
Although I too am a Hedman supporter, I think it's wrong to treat Andy Rogers as a non-skilled, big clutch 'n grab opposite of Hedman. Rogers is a fine skater, has a cannon of a shot and showed great improvment over the course of the year- especially in puck distribution (he made some nice assists at the U18s and one at the Prospect's Game). Watch his stats take a big leap next year.
By the way- it was a Euro-dominated panel who named him to the All-Star team at the U18s.
Brain Hemorrhage
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The problem is if you have two guys who you feel are pretty similar, you will always take the bigger player because the game offers no advantage for a smaller player really. The only advantage this game offers for a smaller player is if he has a bigger heart.
Kronblom said:Perhaps they measure with the skates on..?
Forsberg is 6'4'' with skates and the helmet...
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Petey21 said:
Thankgod I found someone who agrees with me, up until a few seasons ago if a dmen was under 6'0 you might as well forget about him making it to the NHL or dropping way lower in the draft then what they should've b/c of being an inch shorter...I'm still dumbfounded that at 6'1 198, Mike Green is considered small and I'm sure if he was closer to 6'1 205 it would be completely different story
Clarke is the prefect example of teams wanting a huge physical blueline at the expense of skill...granted is not so much more that way in philly now
Marshall said:
I have seen Hedman several times this season, and I can just agree with Woodlief on this one. He couldn´t have been more right!
Mr. Zzzz said:I have seen Hedman several times this season, and I can just agree with Woodlief on this one. He couldn´t have been more right!
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