Gretzky :1984-85 Edmonton Oilers NHL (G)80 (Gls)73 (A)135 (pts)208 (pm)52 (+/-) +98 Orr: 1970-71 Boston NHL (G)78 (Gls)37 (A)102 (Pts)139 (pm)91 (+/-) +124 the +124 is a nhl record. this is by an defenseman. not a forward. this means orr was on the ice for 15 of his teams 207 goals against that year or 7% of his teams goals against. gretzky this year, which was his best +/- year was on the ice for 110 of his teams 298 goals against or 36%. they both averaged an incredible amount of on ice team but orr was on the ice more because of penalty killing situations. now i contend , had bobby orr had access to the medical advances of today that perhaps wayne may have been chasing orrs numbers and not gordie howes.