Origins of Hockey - A Cornucopia from the 16th~19th Centuries in the US & Canada

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Winter Amusements amoung the Inuit from Hudson's Bay in 1850.
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Aberdeen Journal, and General Advertiser for the North of Scotland, 13 Feb 1850, Wed, Page 6
 
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Interesting description of shinty as the writer calls it. The rest is not exactly PC and puts into focus certain attitudes.

Indeed. And like they lived a life of leisure. Eating, drinking, sleeping, playing shinty, partying it up, dancing.... sleep some more.... in a climate, dealing with terrain that is all beyond hostile without the aide of motorized vehicles, outboards, snowmobiles, generators... electricity, running water, packaged or prepared foods, thermal clothing..... even gunpowder & guns arriving late to the people of the Arctic yet...Life of Reilly.

Who knew? :rolleyes:
 
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Might be a repost and i apologize and remove if so. Im so intrigued by old photos and this is my first time posting one! Photo credit to Scantic AntiquesView attachment 119355

Dont believe I've seen that one before and Ive been here for over 8yrs.... so..... very nice indeed. Love it! :thumbu:
A considerable number of those Victorian Era trading cards absolutely outstanding, that one of them.
 
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Here it talks about the origins of Hockey being related to the Iroquois Nation probably early 1700's.
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The Philadelphia Inquirer, 15 Jan 1937, Fri, Page 21

Very interesting (and amusing) that the Mohawk's meaning for "ho-ghee" is "it hurts"!... Not exactly sure what the etymology or origins of the word "hockey" is.... which sure enough, could be a derivative of "ho-ghee"... but I assumed it pre-dated contact with Native NA Bands. Origins for the word are cloudy, listed as "unknown", theorized that it may come from the 16th century middle french, a derivative of "hoquet" which was the term used for Shepherd's "staves", crook'd poles they used when herding, to pull rams, lambs from the herd, guide them, serve as protection etc. Jacques Cartier was the first known documented explorer of the St. Lawrence in 1534, 16th century, had contact with the Iroquois so this raises some interesting possibilities for sure.... there is of course much in the way of undocumented & forgotten history, the Viking's, possibly the Knights Templar & wide spread from the Maritimes to Minnesota right on down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico, St. Brendan of Ireland, the Celts & so on.
 
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Very interesting (and amusing) that the Mohawk's meaning for "ho-ghee" is "it hurts"!... Not exactly sure what the etymology or origins of the word "hockey" is.... which sure enough, could be a derivative of "ho-ghee"... but I assumed it pre-dated contact with Native NA Bands. Origins for the word are cloudy, listed as "unknown", theorized that it may come from the 16th century middle french, a derivative of "hoquet" which was the term used for Shepherd's "staves", crook'd poles they used when herding, to pull rams, lambs from the herd, guide them, serve as protection etc. Jacques Cartier was the first known documented explorer of the St. Lawrence in 1534, 16th century, had contact with the Iroquois so this raises some interesting possibilities for sure.... there is of course much in the way of undocumented & forgotten history, the Viking's, possibly the Knights Templar & wide spread from the Maritimes to Minnesota right on down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico, St. Brendan of Ireland, the Celts & so on.

I've always taken the "ho-ghee" story as being (at least mostly) apocryphal. There are a lot of similar origin stories in both the USA and Canada which have a similar tone, explaining how some obscure local word or tradition was passed down from natives. One of the characteristics of these folk tales is the reference to a Native word which happens to sound just like an English word. Seems to me that they're usually 19th Century inventions, campfire stories that fill in long-forgotten histories, usually with an amusing but highly unlikely twist about a Native word (ha ha, "hockey" really means "it hurts!").
 

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^^^ I found the description & article one up about Roller Skating & Hockey particularly interesting.... In 1882 in Dayton Ohio, the National Roller Polo League was formed with 7 or 8 clubs, semi-professional. Rinks 80 x 40....

To the best of my knowledge the City of Buffalo did not have a team in that league though the game of Roller Polo was very likely played there.... as a couple of members of their baseball team played for the Ntl Roller Polo Leagues team in Indianapolis winters, finagling their transfers from Buffalo to Indy one year that caused quite a stink given as how one of them was a star player on the diamond....

Speaks to the diversity of athletes at the time for sure, multi-sport, playing pro baseball, football or whatever spring, summer & fall, Roller Polo, ice hockey professionally in Michigan & Pennsylvania, Pro or semi-pro in places like Quebec, eventually Northern Ontario & Manitoba etc....
 
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A couple of early references to Ice-Hockey played in Washington.

"The winter of 1835, was the coldest ever ex-
perienced in this latitude. We had some weeks a
thaw, and then the weather would turn extremely
cold. The mercury indicated in January, sixteen de-
grees helow zero. We had three severe cold spells of
weather during that year ; one of which was in March.
On the 3d of that month I skated on the Potomac,
playing " Bandy " and " Prisoner's Base."
https://books.google.ca/books?id=VF...ved=0CBwQ6AEwAGoVChMI2b754e6ZyAIVyRiSCh1inA_4

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The Critic, 21 Jan 1888, Sat, Page 2
 

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A couple of early references to Ice-Hockey played in Washington.

Man that is early isnt it?. And very colorful indeed. Written by people who loved words & knew how to use them with tremendous elan, flourish..... I went to that site you linked (are you a subscriber I assume?) & quite the depth of historical newspapers & publications huh? Spend hours, years getting lost in there & all at the touch of ones fingertips. Digitized. Amazing resource & still being added to. :)
 

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