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CatsforReinhart

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so you complain about me using a small sample size and then use another small sample size to try and prove Reinhart is some high end talent?

He's a powerplay specialist that can play with high end players. Nothing wrong with that but again a homer will only see the negatives.

My advice to you is to take off the homer goggles, you could contribute so much more here if your opinion wasn't so biased.
Powerplay specialist? Do you watch hockey? Or just highlights?
 

CatsforReinhart

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I misread your statement. But If Reinhart isn't high end talent, then neither is Hanifin. Reinhart has gotten 35% of his points over the last 3 years on the PP. Which makes him very good on the PP, but doesn't make him a "PP specialist". And I already gave the numbers with his linemates. He was used around 33% of the time with Eichel and only got around 10% of his even strength points with Eichel, so your facts are completely wrong.
You will confuse him with facts
 

AvatarAang

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I misread your statement. But If Reinhart isn't high end talent, then neither is Hanifin. Reinhart has gotten 35% of his points over the last 3 years on the PP. Which makes him very good on the PP, but doesn't make him a "PP specialist". And I already gave the numbers with his linemates. He was used around 33% of the time with Eichel and only got around 10% of his even strength points with Eichel, so your facts are completely wrong.

Again, I never said Hanifin is a high end talent. I just said Reinhart is not worth Hanifin, and that Carolina would never entertain that trade. They have more than enough wingers, they need a legit C.

Apparently that makes me a troll...never change homers.
 

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Again, I never said Hanifin is a high end talent. I just said Reinhart is not worth Hanifin, and that Carolina would never entertain that trade. They have more than enough wingers, they need a legit C.

Apparently that makes me a troll...never change homers.
Reinhart is worth more than Hanifin. Hanifin is just a powerplay specialist.
 

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35% is now 40% lmao. People like you shouldn't post. Maybe just read. 65% of his points are even strength.


35% = 40%

In what world? World of fantasy.

First of all, I said ALMOST 40%.

Second of all:

Past two years:

97 points, 38 PPP = 39%

Where did you even get 35% from?

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CatsforReinhart

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First of all, I said ALMOST 40%.

Second of all:

Past two years:

97 points, 38 PPP = 39%

Where did you even get 35% from?

Maybe just read. Your post was terrible, was that supposed to shame me or something? Because it's just making you look even more less informed.
Are you being daft on purpose. The original poster said last 3 years was 35%. If you can't read and comprehend the discussion then why are you a part of it?
 

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Sabres won't make the playoffs next season even if we win the draft. Might as well get two top 10 picks this year try for Jack Hughes in the draft and the 2019 UFA pool looks really good(Of course signings will happen)

One more year of losing and then I would start to turn the corner with winning.
You know we;re bad when we're looking two drafts ahead, lol
 

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I think that is a good base for a deal. It seems most sabres fans and canes fans could see that.

Sabres don't want ROR to go and Canes don't want Hanifin to go but its a great starting point.

Have no problem moving Hanifin for the right return.

Just don't want ROR or Reinhart or a basket of crap or anything else Sabres fans have actually offered for him.
 
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CatsforReinhart

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Have no problem moving Hanifin for the right return.

Just don't want ROR or Reinhart or a basket of crap or anything else Sabres fans have actually offered for him.
ROR is a 1st line center and one of the best defensive centers in the game. Sorry you feel like he is crap.
 

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Have no problem moving Hanifin for the right return.

Just don't want ROR or Reinhart or a basket of crap or anything else Sabres fans have actually offered for him.
What do you think fair value is ? Eichel or maybe Mittelstadt + our 2018 1st?
 

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We don't need a defensive C. We don't even particularly need a C; we have a logjam at C.

We need a top-line offensive forward.

First, he's not just a "defensive center". He's a defensive center that can get you 60 pts. That's top line offensive points. Second, you don't have a "lot jam" Stall, Rask, and a bunch of prospects isn't a "log jam". Third, O'Reilly was also a 65 point winger. Forth, O'Reilly's worth more then Hanifin, and I wouldn't make that trade personally.
 

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First, he's not just a "defensive center". He's a defensive center that can get you 60 pts. That's top line offensive points. Second, you don't have a "lot jam" Stall, Rask, and a bunch of prospects isn't a "log jam". Third, O'Reilly was also a 65 point winger. Forth, O'Reilly's worth more then Hanifin, and I wouldn't make that trade personally.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

Lindy and Aho are also centers. Your credit as a knowledgable hockey fan is hereby discredited with that uninformed comment.
 

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First, he's not just a "defensive center". He's a defensive center that can get you 60 pts. That's top line offensive points. Second, you don't have a "lot jam" Stall, Rask, and a bunch of prospects isn't a "log jam". Third, O'Reilly was also a 65 point winger. Forth, O'Reilly worth more then Hanifin.

I'm not sold on ROR being offensively much better than Jordan Staal for us, at least as long as Bill "my gameplans are where scoring goes to die." Peters remains the coach. I don't think the difference is talent as much as the stifling crap BP runs.

Staal, Lindholm, Aho, Rask. Logjam. That's not talking about the specs...we have 4 middle-6 C's already on the roster and Aho & Necas might have 1C upside themselves.

Worth doesn't exist in a vacuum...we need what ROR brings less than most buyers. He's a luxury, not a need, and we'd likely pay less than other buyers for that reason.

Yes, if we're moving Hanifin, I'm looking for something around Mittelstadt...it's a better fit for our needs and core. Trades are things that have to address both teams needs. You need a D with 1D upside; we need an offensive dynamo.
 

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