Russian Fan said:
Being profitable is not & SHOULD NEVER be GUARANTEED like the owners want. Being profitable mean you manage your business the way it should be or the way you want it to be. Some teams loss money because THEY CHOOSE TO & that's mostly the thing that the FANS don't understand.
And why do they choose to?
If one team has $80mil in revenues, and lets 60% of it go to salaries ($48mil), that means it's tough for a team who only has $50mil in revenues keep their players, mostly because all the players look at the team who is spending $48 mil, and wants to get paid like them. You have 2 choices really... let your players go all the time, and suffer in the standings, or give them the money they want, and hope they can get you deep into the playoffs.
Not much of a choice, is it?
Fan are relating CAP vs BETTER TICKET PRICE & that's why they stick to the owner. And to show you how much the owner to their LYING job perfectly, Pierre Boivin told the press that even if they REACH the 31M$ cap the TICKET PRICE would not be LOWERED !!!!
The team I cheer for has the lowest ticket prices in the league. I am pulling for the owners so the team I have cheered for my entire life stays in the city it belongs in. I don't care about 29 other teams, I care about my own team, which is why I chose the side I did, and which is why I am willing to sit around with no hockey for as long as I am.
And which fans are relating cap to better ticket prices? Which team has even implied that? Teams are setting prices as high as they can for the markets they are in... it's simple economics... only someone with little to no understanding of business would think they would lower ticket prices.
If the markets change, and no one wants to go to a game, the team will have to lower ticket prices... but as long as people are willing to go to games, the ticket prices will stay the same.
And while the cap may not help lower ticket prices, it sure might keep them around the same price in most locations. If a team doesn't have to try and raise ticket prices to pay for a raise for a player because another owner gave his comparable player $2mil more, aren't we as fans better off?
It's too late to lower ticket prices now... revenue generation dictates that these are prices that maximize revenue.
How's that for a fan ? You say go go go for the owners & they will take all this money in their POCKETS while you will still have to pay 100$/ticket for the good seats.
So they are supposed to lose money so you can go to a hockey game? Does that make sense?
They are in the business to make money. They are also in the business to keep their fans happy by putting out a competetive team. Alot of franchises simply cannot do both right now, because of the huge discrepancy between the haves and have nots.
People just don't understand why they stick with the owners. They just wish the owners will not think with their wallets at the end & do something for the REAL FANS & not for the suits who buy tickets. They show no sympathy for players making millions for playing hockey but they feel sad that billionnaires loss money in an hockey franchise while still making millions with their other businesses. That's just insane how much the OWNERS did this P.R. SO WELL !!
You don't give people a lot of credit. Some people actually do have reasons, and some people actually have done some research.
The team I cheer for cannot remain competetive the way the NHL is heading. You're problem is that you expect these billionaire owners to lose their own money on a hockey franchise, only for the reason they make money in other areas. Why is that? Shouldn't the owners, if they practice smart business, be able to make money as well?
It's next to impossible to practice smart business in the current NHL. Fans usually won't go to games unless the team is winning, and in order to win, you have to be able to keep your better players... and in order to do that, you have to pay them the same amount as players who play for teams who make double your revenues...
It's impossible. Sure it works for short periods of times (Tampa Bay is a good example), but will they be able to pay guys like St. Louis, Richards and Lecavalier all $6+mil per season (because that is where they are headed)? Maybe if they make the finals all the time, but those 3 will be getting paid the amount they are because teams like Toronto, Detroit, NYR, etc... all pay guys who aren't as good as those 3 much more than that.
There is the problem. Right now, the CBA is catered to teams with large incoming revenues, making it hard for the smaller markets to compete. The goal is to make the CBA cater to the smaller market teams.
Some teams certainly still will lose money, but for the most part, a team with a good scouting system in place, and a good GM, will be able to make money. Right now, that isn't the case.