VinikToWinIt
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Excellent, I bet he will take a home discount
Yeah that's awesome! I didn't know he was a fan.
Excellent, I bet he will take a home discount
When it comes to Palat I worry less about him than the rest of the TKO. Johnson is a little injury prone and Kucherov is streaky. With Palat he runs like a horse and you can always count on a good defensive game. Even if he doesn't score, we will get good games out of him. The kid won't stay down for long.
I worry more about mad dog Callahan, Filppula and Killorn
When it comes to Palat I worry less about him than the rest of the TKO. Johnson is a little injury prone and Kucherov is streaky. With Palat he runs like a horse and you can always count on a good defensive game. Even if he doesn't score, we will get good games out of him. The kid won't stay down for long.
I worry more about mad dog Callahan, Filppula and Killorn
Put him out to pasture? Pasture being LTIR in this case. We got anybody that can pull a Tonya Harding?
Palat has been injured more than Johnson the past 3 years... Palat has missed 28 games to injury compared to Johnson's 18.. He's the definition of streaky, long cold streaks followed by hot streaks.....
Johnson is pretty consistent when he gets going and always produces in the playoffs, Kucherov has gone to another level, signing Palat is actually the most risky if you always have to wonder if he's going to pull a 2nd half hot streak.
Outside of last year when has Palat been hurt? Johnson has missed less games but it seems like he has played with some sort of lingering effects of some kind of injury since he hurt his hand.
But to the point of being streaky I would rather my winger who can play defense at a consistently great level go a month without a goal than someone like Johnson. He's not a bad player when he is not scoring but we usually watch the clock to see if Johnson is gonna bust out of his scoring slumps because he doesn't provide a whole lot else.
At least Palat has dynamite chemistry with Johnson and Kucherov and was/is part of one of the best lines in Lightning history. That gives him all the leeway in the world to me
Outside of last year, when has Johnson been hurt? He's played more games than Palat every season they've been in the league together...
What? Johnson is a well known two way forward and plays more SH minutes than Palat does, significantly more this season actually. And to go along with this season, Johnson has been noticeably better when he's not scoring after those horrid first couple games from him, Palat on the other hand has not been playing up to standard, defensively or offensively.
Johnson broken hand - 7 goals -17 points in 17 playoff games.
Palat healthy - 4 goals - 10 points in 17 playoff games.
I'm just saying Johnson deals with injuries more frequently than Palat does. This is Johnsons list of missed games
Dec 28, 2015 Missed 7 games (undisclosed).
Dec 14, 2015 Undisclosed, injured reserve.
Dec 12, 2015 Undisclosed, day-to-day.
Dec 06, 2015 Missed 3 games (undisclosed).
Nov 28, 2015 Undisclosed, day-to-day.
Nov 25, 2015 Missed 3 games (upper body injury).
Nov 16, 2015 Undisclosed, day-to-day.
Apr 04, 2015 Missed 3 games (upper body injury).
Mar 30, 2015 Upper body injury, day-to-day.
Jan 15, 2015 Missed 1 game (lower body injury).
Jan 13, 2015 Lower body injury, day-to-day.
Dec 20, 2014 Missed 1 game (illness).
Dec 19, 2014 Illness, day-to-day.
This isn't even counting the times we see him go to the locker room, come back and doesn't miss a game. To your point, Johnson plays in as many situations as Palat does. He takes a beating. Hell the guy didn't even miss any playoff games with that wrist injury. Just because he doesn't miss a lot of games doesn't mean he's not dealing with something
This is Palat
Jan 02, 2016 Missed 8 games (lower body injury).
Dec 20, 2015 Lower body injury, injured reserve.
Dec 14, 2015 Lower body injury, day-to-day.
Dec 10, 2015 Missed 12 games (lower body injury).
Nov 16, 2015 Lower body injury, injured reserve.
Nov 10, 2015 Lower body injury, day-to-day.
Mar 20, 2015 Missed 3 games (lower body injury).
Mar 12, 2015 Lower body injury, sidelined indefinitely.
Dec 19, 2014 Missed 4 games (lower body injury).
Dec 11, 2014 Lower body injury, day-to-day.
Jun 09, 2014 Re-signed by the Tampa Bay Lightning to a three-year contract.
And the proof shows that Palat has missed more games (like you said) but most of it is confined to a 3 month period where the guy did everything but break his ankle falling out of bed. Most of Johnson's injuries are in a short period of time too but it's still more spread out especially if you want to count that Johnson himself even said that the wrist wasn't 100% for most of last year. Count the wrist injury and not missing any time and it opens to the box to wonder how often he's playing through something that is nagging him.
And yeah, Johnson is miles ahead of Palat right now as this is EASILY the worst start of Palat's career. But from a historical standpoint he is one of the better defensive forwards in the game. And we even saw how important he is to the team last year. When we lost Palat the wheels came off the wagon for a short time. We managed to win some few games but it made an already bad end of 2015 far, FAR worse. But with all he brings to the game and knowing what he can do... I never... EVER worry about him.
Now you've probably disagreed with every single word I've said but I have a point that we probably will agree on: it's very likely once he figures out his end of the ice, he's going to stumble onto a few goals and assists seemingly by accident and he will start playing with a swagger and the points will come in bunches. Combine that with him historically being reliable defensively, I've got every reason to be optimistic about Palat and have little worry.
With Stamkos out and a Kucherov slump that could happen at any time, I worry about the more talented scorer in Johnson sustaining us through such events.
+/- +10 over his past 16 games. 23 points over his past 32 games.
That's the Drej we all love.
Yeah he's turned it around. Admittedly some of the last 32 games stats don't impress me - he was kind of a passenger for a lot of that - but I would say the last 5 games he has been legitimately good.
Buffalo (for me). We've definitely been seeing core, untradeable Palat since.Yeah, stats aside, Palat seemed to turn the "real" corner about 10-14 days ago. I can't remember which game it was, but he was a monster on both sides of the ice, and he's been good since.