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which would be the best-case scenario...that means the scouts did their job and found a decent goalieIt would be great. ...For this season.
You think he takes 2.5 going forward?
how on Earth can that be a bad thing lol
which would be the best-case scenario...that means the scouts did their job and found a decent goalieIt would be great. ...For this season.
You think he takes 2.5 going forward?
Agreed, but isn't that the whole idea of trying to set up a 1A/1B type situation?
It feels like there will be open competition for the starter job. If both play decently then maybe Koskinen is seen as more than just a backup.
Because that means they'll have to pay him way more than 2.5 per season thereafter wards or lose him for nothing, neither of which is a good scenario for the team.which would be the best-case scenario...that means the scouts did their job and found a decent goalie
how on Earth can that be a bad thing lol
If you are setting up a 1A/1B don't you want a little more evidence that both goalies have that potential? We know Talbot is capable of being a top 5 goalie in the league. We don't know what Koskinen is capable of. Considering the signing, one has to think that management believes he is capable of being in a 1A/1B. I'm just not comfortable judging because I really have no idea what to expect. I hope he is great but I also wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't last the entire season in the NHL.
He's a UFA after this season, so it doesn't matter what he makes this year.Because that means they'll have to pay him way more than 2.5 per season thereafter wards or lose him for nothing, neither of which is a good scenario for the team.
Half of that price would be completely reasonable and even if he exceeded expectations his price wouldn't be as high. If he plays better than the starter he's going to want to get paid more than him.
Why doesn't it matter? We're not exactly swimming in cap space to begin with and prices generally don't go down after one year deals.He's a UFA after this season, so it doesn't matter what he makes this year.
Why doesn't it matter? We're not exactly swimming in cap space to begin with and prices generally don't go down after one year deals.
Remember Russell?
If he plays as good as your suggesting you kick Talbot to the curve. Easy solution and not much to worry about.
And he's going to take less than Talbot... because...?If he plays as good as your suggesting you kick Talbot to the curve. Easy solution and not much to worry about.
Lehtonen and Lehner would've been my picks of those guys but do you think either signs for $2.5 million or less? I don't. IMO it's premature to call this a good or bad signing. If he comes in and sucks then it will clearly be a bad signing. If he comes in and does well then we have another option if Talbot struggles. Best case scenario he becomes a starter for us and outplays Talbot, worst case he sucks and we send him down and he eats ~$1.5 million in cap space.
And he's going to take less than Talbot... because...?
Paying for the success of a single year is how teams get roped into terrible contracts.
Yeah we did. So imagine worse than that. Because the Oilers don't know what a value contract looks like.Well we paid Talbot after one year......... Personally I would love to see a proven top 5 goalie here myself, but thats just not going to happen.
Lets wait to see what this guy does instead of the If's or but's for this up coming year, instead of assuming all summer.
Well we paid Talbot after one year......... Personally I would love to see a proven top 5 goalie here myself, but thats just not going to happen.
Lets wait to see what this guy does instead of the If's or but's for this up coming year, instead of assuming all summer.
He did, but we're still talking about 100 GP, excellent back-up stats and half a season looking good as a starter. That gave Talbot $4.2M. 100 GP is nothing for a GK. I don't mind that deal btw.Talbot had a good NHL track record by the time he signed his extension.
Talbot had a good NHL track record by the time he signed his extension.
One season as a starter, that was with us?
So anyone who is critical of management is a troll and not a fan?
Insightful.
Especially coming from a poster who has become one of the most one note contributors on this forum regarding constant criticisms of cam Talbot.
If he plays as good as your suggesting you kick Talbot to the curve. Easy solution and not much to worry about.
Fans that actually care about the team point out negative things because they want the team to be better (as well as positive things).Read the post I quoted again.
You can have whatever your opinion is on the Oilers. Thats totally fine.
Doesnt make you any smarter or dumber then anyone else on here.
Whats getting really annoying on this board is the constant negativity. Every topic on hand turns negative about the ogranization.
My advice for those people is:
Take a long break over this summer, dont think about or care about the Oilers at all once. Try and bring some positivity back into being a fan, after a nice break.
Its just not worth being a fan of something you want to hate, or want to see fail. Its actually unhealthy.
Read the post I quoted again.
You can have whatever your opinion is on the Oilers. Thats totally fine.
Doesnt make you any smarter or dumber then anyone else on here.
Whats getting really annoying on this board is the constant negativity. Every topic on hand turns negative about the ogranization.
My advice for those people is:
Take a long break over this summer, dont think about or care about the Oilers at all once. Try and bring some positivity back into being a fan, after a nice break.
Its just not worth being a fan of something you want to hate, or want to see fail. Its actually unhealthy.
And whose analysis of this goaltender's game should we trust, yours? People's on this board? I've played goalie all my life and taught goaltending, but I'm not even touching on my analysis of his goaltending based on clips, because that's all any of us have seen.
We have his stats and they are okay. Not good enough to justify 2.5 M. So we have to assume that the organization has done some analysis that makes them confident in taking this risk, and it is a risk, given the cap situation. (Some people seem to not realize how close the Oilers are to the cap.) Part of my point is that the organization has lost the benefit of the doubt here, which is being given way too freely by some posters.
So you are basing this signing purely off of the organization that signed him (there were many that tried) and not off of the player.
Guess the Oilers might as well trade their 2nd round pick for nothing right now then seeing as how they haven't made a good one in a decade.
Sorry if someone pointed this out already, but there's one other reason why this signing seems deeply misguided. Remember Slava Malamud's amazing Twitter thread about how SKA St. Petersburg was stacked this year, totally ignoring league rules, to bring glory to Putin in an election year? May tell you something about Koskinen's wondrous .931 save percentage this year, after two years around .915. I'm really surprised Lowetide missed this—he interviewed Malamud on his show after the thread went viral.
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