But his agent asked for trade before this and threatened to go to KHL. It was ugly.
Which is why I think it'll get done by the end of the month at the latest. This isn't anywhere near "ugly" status
But his agent asked for trade before this and threatened to go to KHL. It was ugly.
Zadorov is about to get signed, according to Dater, so it will leave only Ferris 2 clients.Which is why I think it'll get done by the end of the month at the latest. This isn't anywhere near "ugly" status
Which is why I think it'll get done by the end of the month at the latest. This isn't anywhere near "ugly" status
Can always count on you with this, now Wenberg10's turn "JArmo is always bad with negotiations".
Ferris has a history...
It's not ugly I agree. But it's quickly approaching that.
Torts threatens Anderson with "If you're not here you could lose your spot." Jarmo says it would be a "big big mistake" to not report to camp.
Anderson's camp threatens to skate in Switzerland. Doesn't report to camp. Agent comes out and says the Jackets aren't being fair.
It feels like a snowball going in the wrong direction. Not quite Johansen level toxic but it's not good.
You're taking what Torts said all out of context. He mentioned it's healthy...there are other players (Abramov and Milano) eager to claim a spot. He even said that WASN'T a threat to Anderson. It's just healthy competition and a state of where this club is at in terms of its depth. But ofcourse you're taking the worst case scenario stance on this.
Torts tried to paint the threat as something that would have naturally happened even with Anderson in camp. But we all know that's not actually the case. Of course he is going to say its not a threat, they want him in camp. They did the same thing to Johansen during his negotiations, as they frequently attacked the agent, not the player.
No, it's being real. If you actually think Anderson could lose his job to Milano or Abramov then I don't know what to tell you.
Torts tried to paint the threat as something that would have naturally happened even with Anderson in camp. But we all know that's not actually the case. Of course he is going to say its not a threat, they want him in camp. They did the same thing to Johansen during his negotiations, as they frequently attacked the agent, not the player.
No, it's being real. If you actually think Anderson could lose his job to Milano or Abramov then I don't know what to tell you.
So I'm guessing the Jackets offered 1.5M and Anderson's agent feels he's worth 2.5M. Solution seems simple. But this could be over term too. He saw Wennberg get a six year deal, maybe he wants one too. This all seems ridiculous for a third line winger, granted with potential for more. Sounds like some hyperbole on the part of Anderson's agent trying to paint the Jackets as unfair, but I guess we'll see.
I think Anderson is a big piece of the future here, but if he and his camp want to play the primadonna card, and things get contentious, there's a certain center in Colorado that could use a new home and Anderson would be a pretty nice piece to send in return.
A penny wise, two-hundred and twenty pounds foolish.
Nothing like trading a blossoming power forward the summer before he busts out, and when he's unsigned so his value is extra low. But congratulations you saved $200k and look like a real hardass!
200 - 500k on this contract and every other contract next year and the next and the next etc. adds up. I'm fair but firm. Players and their harebrained agents must learn that homey doesn't play.
I want Duchene and I know I have to give up something of value. Keeping Jenner and giving up a blossoming power forward the summer before he busts out just might be the added value needed to seal the deal.
Andy brings a valuable attribute set to this team. He's got size and speed, decent puck skills, an ability to score several ways, and a willingness to drop the gloves when needed. Granted we have a limited sample size which screams bridge deal. If he repeats his hard play and production (which was pretty good relative to minutes played) or better yet improves, I think he is more valuable and brings more dimension than Jenner ($2.9M) And if he were on the left side, some choices for me would be easier. A two year bridge at $2.0-2.25M isn't unreasonable and could prove exceptional. The upside exceeds the downside.
Signing him at $2.0-2.2m isn't shifting anyone's salary scale - it's what Connor Brown (20g) got, not what 10 goal guys get after ELC. We've been calling Brown the closest comparable since the season ended.
If some agent goes to Jarmo in the future and says "how come my guy doesn't get that $2m like Anderson did?", all Jarmo has to say is "Was your guy third on the team in even strength goals? No? Then **** off."
Brown got $2.1 mil on a three-year deal. The other comp in the Brown/Anderson camp would probably be Sam Bennett, who got $1.95 mil on a two-year deal. Brett Ritchie could probably go in there too, and he got $1.75 mil on a two-year deal.
https://theathletic.com/103559/2017...ue-jackets-ryan-murray-seeks-to-elevate-play/
Tortorella acknowledged on Saturday that he was hard on Murray last season. When the defensive pairs got settled, and his playing time dwindled, Murray seemed to get demoralized, not motivated.
“(Murray) should be looking to try and get into the top four,†Tortorella said on Saturday. “I wouldn’t be banging away at it if I didn’t think he could do that.
“I’ve told you guys (the media) many times, I think I’ve hurt players in the past because I've asked them to do things they just aren’t capable of doing. With Murr, I think there’s so much there. But eventually the player … it can’t be me trying to squeeze it out of him. A veteran player has to say, ‘You know what, I’m going to show you!’ I think Murr is at that point, I really do. I hope he is.â€
Murray also said he thought "there was no way in hell" he'd be back in Columbus after last season.
The downside exceeds the upside, because it would both shift the salary scale and it would then create a perception among agents that all they have to do with this front office is wait things out and they'll get what they want.
Let me ask you this. If the houses in your neighborhood were all valued at $250K, and someone who was selling theirs jumped on the first offer they received and it was for $190K, would you be happy with them? It would have the same effect: the market shifts against you because of a foolish and impulsive decision on the part of one person.
Signing him at $2.0-2.2m isn't shifting anyone's salary scale - it's what Connor Brown (20g) got, not what 10 goal guys get after ELC. We've been calling Brown the closest comparable since the season ended.
If some agent goes to Jarmo in the future and says "how come my guy doesn't get that $2m like Anderson did?", all Jarmo has to say is "Was your guy third on the team in even strength goals? No? Then **** off."
Brown got $2.1 mil on a three-year deal. The other comp in the Brown/Anderson camp would probably be Sam Bennett, who got $1.95 mil on a two-year deal. Brett Ritchie could probably go in there too, and he got $1.75 mil on a two-year deal.
Brown is a fair comparable, noting he benefitted from occasional minutes with Matthews. That the other two - both no more than weak third/better fourth liners- got the money they did actually further justifies what I suggested as fair for Anderson.
Here's the flaw in all of this argument. What did Jarmo offer? What was the ask? How do we know? It's easy to criticize both the FO and the player's agent when you get to hallucinate the negotiations.
Portzline saying things are going downhill fast. I find it hard to believe the FO would low ball him so much that he'd be unsigned this late. Which has me in the camp that Anderson & Ferris are asking for too much.
Last year Tobias Rieder was the latest RFA to sign, on October 3rd.