GDT: Official 2017 #hcanes NCAA Football Thread

Svechhammer

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Jun 8, 2017
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A team doesn't need to lose in order for State to jump them. Beating Pitt and ND on the road would absolutely be enough to hop other teams that continue to win.
Realistically, State will be borderline Top 20 after this win. They were 24th, University-6 was 17th, and a 39-25 win wasn't exactly the kind of tail whuppin that sends teams flying up the standings. You won't get much credit at all for beating Pitt with how garbage they've looked this year, and a matchup with ND at best would be two mid to low Top 20 programs. And really, without losses, who would they jump? Florida, maybe, but after that (ignoring ND assuming you're right and State knocks them off) you have a slurry of teams with equal or better wins on their resume, who have losses to better teams than SCar. Utah, SDSU, USF, Miami, and Wazzy are undefeated, and will continue to rise as they pile up the wins (won't crack Top 4, but the pollsters won't keep them out of the Top 10 if they finish undefeated). You're not going to punish the losses of WVU (VT), Florida (Mich), VT (Clemson), Oklahoma St (TCU), USC (Wazzu), Auburn (Clemson), or Ohio St (Oklahoma) over the loss by State to SCar, and that's literally everyone standing between them and the Top 10 right now. Obviously, there will be losses by many of the teams in that list, and a couple of them (Utah/Wazzu and Miami/VT) still have to play each other, but its a tough call to say that State is going to be jumping all those teams, even if they continue to win, and that's assuming any of the teams just on the outside of the rankings don't pull off a major upset, vaulting them above the Pack.
 

DaveG

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Apr 7, 2003
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A team doesn't need to lose in order for State to jump them. Beating Pitt and ND on the road would absolutely be enough to hop other teams that continue to win.
For USF and SDSU maybe, thing is the other teams in front of NC State are playing big boy teams as well, and frankly many of them playing teams that are better, in many cases a hell of a lot better, then Pitt or Notre Dame.

WVU plays TCU and Okie State
Florida plays Georgia
Utah plays USC and Oregon

As I said, NC State will jump teams by attrition, but no, wins over Pitt and Notre Dame on the road would NOT look better then wins over top 10 programs (also on the road). Pitt especially, I mean they are truly f***ing godawful this year.

State's not going to get the benefit of the doubt over any of those teams should WVU win those, Florida beat UGA, and Utah beat SC and Oregon. Best State would be able to hope for is being somewhere around #15 if those games go the way of the teams that are immediately in front of them.
 
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Unsustainable

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Apr 14, 2012
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@DaveG

2 times the refs f’d us today
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garnetpalmetto

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Jul 12, 2004
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chaos reigns

It does indeed - here's how the prognosticators think how a little bit of chaos impacted the bowl hopes of our favorite teams

UNC

Bonagura - Not bowl eligible
Hale - Not bowl eligible
USA Today - Not bowl eligible

NC State
Bonagura - Camping World Bowl (vs. Oklahoma State)
Hale - TaxSlayer Bowl (vs. Florida)
USA Today - Camping World Bowl (vs. West Virginia)

Wake Forest
Bonagura - Military Bowl (vs. Navy)
Hale - Independence Bowl (vs. Mississippi State)
USA Today - Music City Bowl (vs. Mississippi State)

ECU
Bonagura - Not bowl eligible
Hale - Not bowl eligible
USA Today - Not bowl eligible

App State
Bonagura - Camellia Bowl (vs. Northern Illinois)
Hale - Camellia Bowl (vs. Ohio)
USA Today - Dollar General Bowl (vs. Northern Illinois)

South Carolina
Bonagura - Music City Bowl (vs. Louisville)
Hale - Outback Bowl (vs. Michigan State)
USA Today - Liberty Bowl (vs. Iowa State)

Florida
Bonagura - TaxSlayer Bowl (vs. Indiana)
Hale - TaxSlayer Bowl (vs. NC State)
USA Today - Outback Bowl (vs. Michigan)

West Virginia
Bonagura - Frisco Bowl (vs. UCF)
Hale - Liberty Bowl (vs. Kentucky)
USA Today - Camping World Bowl (vs. NC State)

Georgia Tech
Bonagura - Quick Lane Bowl (vs. Minnesota)
Hale - Pinstripe Bowl (vs. Maryland)
USA Today - Sun Bowl (vs. UCLA)

Virginia Tech
Bonagura - Belk Bowl (vs. Kentucky)
Hale - Camping World Bowl (vs. Texas)
USA Today - Citrus Bowl (vs. Auburn)

Clemson
Bonagura - Rose Bowl (vs. Penn State) & National Championship Game (vs. Alabama)
Hale - Sugar Bowl (vs. TCU) & National Championship Game (vs. Alabama)
USA Today - Rose Bowl (vs. Washington) & National Championship Game (vs. Ohio State)
 

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