Offer sheets tendered

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  1. Marshall

    Marshall Hi beat writers!

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    I'm trying to come up with a list of offer sheets that have been tendered in the last 10 years or so, and I'm only coming up with Kesler and Sakic -- which ones am I forgetting? Thanks.
     
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    Fedorov, Gratton, and Hauer come to mind.
     
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    I'm pretty sure I heard Bill Watters on Leafs Lunch say that that Leafs made a contract offer for Mattias Ohlund, like the Flyers did for Kesler.

    I think those are the only 2 restricted free agent offers ever made, and both happen to be against the Canucks.
     
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    Keith Tkachuk got a monster offer sheet right before the Jets were sold. It was front-end loaded so that the ownership group would have a hard time matching it but they did.

    I think it was the Hawks that made the offer.

    Edit: Here is an article: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9806E4D71539F937A35753C1A963958260

    Funny how small that contract looks today, but at the time $6/m in the first year of the contract made him the third highest paid player in the league. The total contract was $17/m over 5 years.

    That was 12 short years ago - and people laugh at the DiPietro contract... In 10 years, his $4.5/per will look like peanuts compared to other starting goalies.
     
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    Didn't Scott Stevens try to go to St.Louis a couple times on offer sheets?
     
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    Not in the last 10 years, but St. louis signed Stevens to an offer sheet.

    The following year they signed Shanahan to an offer sheet, and lost Stevens in the process.
     
  7. Wetcoaster

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    They did but it was little different situation as Ohlund was an unsigned draft pick like Umberger.

    Quinn refused to pay the going rate for a first round pick (sound familiar) and dicked him around for two years (Ohlund had already starred in international competition and was hailed a sure fire top 2 guy on D in the NHL). In those days under the CBA some Euros had the opportunity to become Restricted Free Agents if the drafting team did not sign them or tender an adequate offer. Cliff Fletcher and the Maple Laffs moved in, upped the Canucks offer by about $7 million and Quinn was forced to sign Ohlund for that inflated figure or lose him.
     
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    10 years is a long time...just about 10 % of your cap for 10 years. If Rick continues to improve or even stays at the same level for 10 it's a steal. One aggravating groin or lingering knee injury and you're over a barrell. It's a feast or famine contract.:)
     
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    Here's a TSN piece by Bob McKenzie from when the Kesler offer sheet was tendered and signed by the player. It mentions Kesler's was the first since Hauer's in 1999.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=177298&hubname=

    Of course, there could have been offer sheets extended to other players since then where the player chose not to sign; there were some rumors that this happened with at least one of the NJ RFAs last summer.
     
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    How about these two?

    Can someone refresh my memory as to how the Canes got Gary Roberts after his year off? Was it just a straight trade with Calgary or was it an offer sheet scenario?

    Also, was Stu Grimson tendered an offer sheet when he went to Hartford (or maybe Anaheim)? I have a fuzzy memory that the Rangers tendered an offer to Grimson but lost out to another team.
     
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    The Rangers offered Joe Sakic a huge contract that averaged out to $7M per year with a very generous signing bonus after the Avs won the Cup in '96.
     
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    Carolina - traded to acquire Roberts' rights. Kidd and Roberts for Giguere and Cassels.

    Grimson - here is the info...from 1995 (so you are correct (and good memory - I know I forgot about that one), an offer sheet, but not within the last 10 years that was asked about in the original post)

    Link to NY times blurb
     
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    Correct about Ohlund - he was a Group IV RFA.

    In a nutshell - unsigned draft picks who played overseas were considered "Defected Players" and became Group IV RFAs when their overseas contracts expired - their original team retained the rights to match, but there was no compensation if they chose not to.

    This is a different situation that Umberger. If I recall correctly, he was an unsigned draft pick who became a UFA after leaving Ohio State. The Canucks had no option to match an offer.
     
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    I't would be good to know how many offer sheets that have been turned down by players, AFAIK all we know are the ones that got accepted by the players.
     
  15. People said the same thing about yashin, look how well that turned out.
     
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    No they didn't. People laughed. Yashin was signed for more than $6M a year more than what DiPietero gets now.
     
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    That's not even close to reality man.
     
  18. Straight from newsdays article after the yashin signing 9/05/01


    Both sides stressed the importance of commitment and
    loyalty over the fact that Yashin, while well
    compensated, never will be one of the league's
    highest-paid players.

    Sounds exactly like that. Fact is Diepetro is signed super long term as one of the highest paid goalies in the league, same as yashin signed long term for near the top of the salary scale in his day. But this is getting pretty off topic.
     
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    The spin put on it by the team and player doesn't equal popular opinion.

    And DiPietro is NOT one of the highest paid goalies in the league. He's barely in the top 10 now, and he won't be there when Vokoun's new contract kicks in and Giguere gets his UFA asking price.
     

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