[NYR/VGK] Who won the Reaves for 2022 3rd trade?

[aufheben]

It's an overreaction to Tom Wilson but I don't think Ryan Reaves for a 3rd is going to have a "loser".

Yeah exactly lol

 

[MK9]

Where is the 'He's still in the league? Everyone loses.' option?

 

[topshelf15]

Meh its a 3rd...NYR gained a nuclear option...Seems pretty even

 

[doomscroll]

Remember when the hockey world lambasted the Bruins for giving up a 2017 third-rounder that would become Kirill Ustimenko in exchange for Zac Rinaldo?

If a team misses out on an NHL talent due to trading a third-rounder, then almost every other team in the league is equally culpable for not drafting that player before the 63rd pick. The Rangers still have three picks before that point in the next draft.

 

[Xspyrit]

We don't know what that pick is or what it will be used for, so until we do NYR is the clear winner since they got a player who provides something they need.

Sorry but it doesn't work like that. The value given up was a 3rd round pick, not the result of the "magic bean"

Everytime a team draft a good player with a pick obtained in a trade, the team giving up a "late pick" got fleeced? Ex :

Dallas Stars acquire	Date	Ottawa Senators acquire
Alex Auld [TBODY] [/TBODY]	July 8, 2009	2010 6th round pick (#178-Mark Stone) [TBODY] [/TBODY]

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Should the Stars GM have been fired? I mean he gave up Mark Stone for a back up goalie at the end of his career


Or let's say I sell a hockey card for 20$ and with that money I buy some kind of lotto ticket and win 5 millions $...

The guy who bought me the card got fleeced?

 

[the_fan]

Wilson plays on the 1st line, Reaves is a 4th line goon with no hockey skills. I don't know how Rangers think Reaves can solve the issues they have with Wilson. They can put Reaves and the 4th line against Wilson and Caps 1st line, get scored on and lose the game I guess

 

[HyperX]

Oh no....What are the Rangers ever going to do with Reaves taking up 1.75 in cap space. Probably going to have to trade Fox now.

Best part is, the Ranger's have their entire roster signed for the season and we still have 9M in cap space. Good try though?

Add it to the list of bad Rangers contracts that are quickly piling up and beginning to block their future contracts;

Kreider, Trouba, Goodrow, Reaves..

 

[The S5]

I know its probably unpopular with the analytics crowd, but the Rangers got punked way too many times last year. Reaves solves the problem of a guy like Travis Frederic calling out the entire Rangers bench. Third round pick is a crap shoot. Reaves is a plug, but fills a need. I'd say equal value from the Rangers perspective.

 

[pld459666]

Why does there need to be a winner/loser?

 

[Xspyrit]

Why does there need to be a winner/loser?

There won't be any

The more adequate question would be "Do you believe the price of a 2022 3rd round pick too much to acquire Ryan Reaves?"

A draft pick value for the 2022 draft won't be different in 5 years. It's not like when you trade players and they take completely different roads afterwards

 

[Crunchrulz]

Wilson plays on the 1st line, Reaves is a 4th line goon with no hockey skills. I don't know how Rangers think Reaves can solve the issues they have with Wilson. They can put Reaves and the 4th line against Wilson and Caps 1st line, get scored on and lose the game I guess

Seems to me that matching up Reaves and Wilson has not been a problem in the past, why should it be a problem now? The only way it would be a problem is if one player or the other comes down with the "flu" before one of the handful of games the two teams play.

 

[pld459666]

There won't be any

The more adequate question would be "Do you believe the price of a 2022 3rd round pick too much to acquire Ryan Reaves?"

A draft pick value for the 2022 draft won't be different in 5 years. It's not like when you trade players and they take completely different roads afterwards

As unlikely as it is for a 3rd round pick to make it in the NHL, No, the pick was NOT too much for Reaves.

 

[Xspyrit]

As unlikely as it is for a 3rd round pick to make it in the NHL, No, the pick was NOT too much for Reaves.

Yes it seems to be "fair market value"... I am not sure why this poll was made to be honest.

 

[ricky0034]

Vegas, a 3rd round pick isn't much but Reaves provides a negative value so it's essentially something for nothing(and Vegas is right up against the cap so the cap space while not much is also helpful for them)

but again a 3rd round pick isn't a lot and a 1.75m cap hit and taking up a 4th line roster spot isn't a lot of negative value so like....meh

 

[LV Knight Life]

There doesn't have to be a winner and a loser with every trade. I'm glad to see him off the team, but if he provides something
New York believes they need, both teams got what they wanted.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Sorry but it doesn't work like that. The value given up was a 3rd round pick, not the result of the "magic bean"

Everytime a team draft a good player with a pick obtained in a trade, the team giving up a "late pick" got fleeced? Ex :

Dallas Stars acquire	Date	Ottawa Senators acquire
Alex Auld [TBODY] [/TBODY]	July 8, 2009	2010 6th round pick (#178-Mark Stone) [TBODY] [/TBODY]

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Should the Stars GM have been fired? I mean he gave up Mark Stone for a back up goalie at the end of his career


Or let's say I sell a hockey card for 20$ and with that money I buy some kind of lotto ticket and win 5 millions $...

The guy who bought me the card got fleeced?

I can’t speak too much on the Stars goalie situation at the time but trading for a career backup/AHL fringe guy for picks regardless is a head scratching move. And you can make the argument if that GM was making moves like that then said GM would cut corners elsewhere with picks or prospects in terms of risk tolerance.

 

[Xspyrit]

I can’t speak too much on the Stars goalie situation at the time but trading for a career backup/AHL fringe guy for picks regardless is a head scratching move. And you can make the argument if that GM was making moves like that then said GM would cut corners elsewhere with picks or prospects in terms of risk tolerance.

I'm sorry but what are you talking about? They gave up a 6th round pick for a back-up goalie, they obviously needed a guy

There's nothing head scratching here

 

[HugeInTheShire]

This poll really needs an everyone wins option. All fans will get to watch Reaves attempt to play hockey and chasing Wilson around for a couple years
We all win!

 

[Machinehead]

We did because we also traded Howden for a 4th with the same team.

Reaves is a one-for-one massive upgrade over Howden.

I mean, I don't wanna speak for Vegas but it feels like a win internally.

Everyone talks about toughness and wiLsoN PROBleM and just ignores that the Rangers just made their 4th line better, period.

3rd and 4th round picks are almost identical in terms of the likelihood of landing a good player.

 

[Puck Dogg]

Probably Rangers will get more NHL games and even points from Reaves than the 3rd round pick will ever produce. But Vegas didn't really need Reaves. I think the trade worked for both teams.