Line Combos: NYR Lineup Retool for Next Season

Algernop Kreider

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I would want to give Chytil a long look at center before moving him to wing. If 2 years from now he and Andersson both look legit, I wonder if it may be best to move Zib to the wing.
 

Hire Sather

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They shouldn't trade anyone else

You need to have some guys to build around.

Zibabajed, Kreider, Skjei. Maybe Hayes, Spooner.

You can't be like Arizona and Buffalo and just trade everyone...it takes time to build an entire new roster.

Identify the players you want to keep and slot in the prospects around them

I'm not trading anyone else unless it's towards a top 3 pick
 

haveandare

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They shouldn't trade anyone else

You need to have some guys to build around.

Zibabajed, Kreider, Skjei. Maybe Hayes, Spooner.

You can't be like Arizona and Buffalo and just trade everyone...it takes time to build an entire new roster.

Identify the players you want to keep and slot in the prospects around them

I'm not trading anyone else unless it's towards a top 3 pick
I think definitely Hayes personally. He's really grown his 2 way game. Especially if we're looking at multiple rookie centers and Zbad, it'd be good to have a vet matchup center like Hayes.
 

Richter35

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Three assumptions:

1. we have one iota of good luck for the first time in decades and win the lottery, get Dahlin. TB wins cup.
2. Zuccarello wants to sign a team-friendly extension (not unlikely given his last deal)
3. 1 + 2 above make management feel like this doesn't have to be a 3-5 year odyssey

Kreider Zibanejad Buchnevich
Spooner Hayes Zucc
Grabner/Nash - Names- Fast
Vesey - Nieves/Andersson- Lettieri
Carey/guy that can be scratched

Skjei Shattenkirk
Staal Dahlin
Gilmour DeAngelo
Smith/Kampfer (if Smith comes back like last spring, he plays)


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Georgiev

I don't think Andersson getting his chops wet as 4th line C will be awful for him. Let Chytil be #1 C in HFD. Forget the Kovy stuff. Give Smith a chance to rebound, we don't need the cap space now. Dahlin is a franchise D who can make a difference next year, it would speed things up a bit.

If no Dahlin, I would trade Zucc and suck it up another year.
 
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Fvital92

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Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich
Spooner - Hayes - Zuccarello
Namestnikov - Chytil/Andersson - Chytil/Andersson
Vesey - Nieves - Fast

Skjei - Pionk
Staal - Shattenkirk
Gilmour/another prospect - Tony DeAngelo.

If we don't trade another player I think we go more or less like this in the next season.
 
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Lindberg Cheese

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Kreider Zib Buch
Naz Chytil Hayes
Spooner Andersson Zuc
Vesey letteri Fast
Holland/Nieves

Skjei Carlson (UFA)
Pionk Shattenkirk
Staal ADA
Smith/others
 

Ori

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Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich
Spooner - Hayes - Zuccarello
Namestnikov - Chytil/Andersson - Chytil/Andersson
Vesey - Nieves - Fast

Skjei - Pionk
Staal - Shattenkirk
Gilmour/another prospect - Tony DeAngelo.

If we don't trade another player I think we go more or less like this in the next season.

That`s a very interesting team compare to what we had in the first half of this current season if both Chytil & Lias are ready, and we need to cross fingers that they are ready to play in NHL.
I would enjoy to swap Zucc with Chytil - I would like to try Namestnikov - Lias - Zucc before end of this season. :)
 
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Hire Sather

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How would making more trades turn this team into the Sabres?

They'll sign quality veteran stop gaps to fill holes until young players are ready. No one is advocating throwing the kids to the wolves.

Because we don't need to gut the roster

Zib is 25 years old making 5M as a good #2 center..why can't he be part of our team when we contend again?
 

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Because we don't need to gut the roster

Zib is 25 years old making 5M as a good #2 center..why can't he be part of our team when we contend again?

I'm not on board with trading Zib until we have a better in house option. He's the type of player we should be keeping around for now so I'm with you on that, unless the return for said player is just something you can't refuse.

However, someone like Zuccarello should be moved. I'm not married to keeping Spooner or Namestnikov either, though I wouldn't pout if both were signed for a relatively short term.
 

UAGoalieGuy

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Chytil and Andersson for sure. Other two I don't think so.

Edit: Looks like Chytil may have two more potential slide years.

Thank you sir I'm quite drunk and not able to research. Traveling for work is great when all the breweries are within walking distance from hotel.

I mean would it make sense to spread them all out so they are not RFAs at the same time?
 
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boxhamster

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Krieder - Zibby - Zucc
Spooner- Hayes - Buchnevich
Namestnikov - Anderson - Grabner
Kahun - Chytill - Fast

Skjei - Pionk
D'Angelo- Shattenkirk
Hajek - Rutta
 

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Here's my very rough lineup for next year:

JVR (who I still maintain wants to be a Ranger as badly as Shattenkirk did)/Kovalchuk - Zibanejad - Zucc
Kreider - Namestnikov - Buchnevich
Vesey - Spooner - Chytil/Lettieri
Nieves-Andersson/Howden-Fast



Skjei-Shattenkirk
Gilmour-Dahlin
Bigras/Hajek-DeAngelo/Pionk
O'Gara/Sproul


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Get rid of Staal, Smith and Beleskey. Trade Hayes
 

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Krieder - Zibby - Zucc
Spooner- Hayes - Buchnevich
Namestnikov - Anderson - Grabner
Kahun - Chytill - Fast

Skjei - Pionk
D'Angelo- Shattenkirk
Hajek - Rutta
Chytil ain't bein' our 4th line center lol
 

EpicDing

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Spooner-Hayes-Zuccarello
Namestnikov-Andersson/Howden-Chytil
Nieves-Howden/Andersson-Fast

Skjei-Shattenkirk
Gilmour-Pionk
Hajek-DeAngelo

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Play the kids and go for Hughes. I also think neither of Spooner or Namestnikov are Cs long term. Also probably wishful thinking Hajek is ready next year but eh.
 
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Going to assume Zucc gets moved and we do nothing else but sign a depth FA.

Kreider-Chytil-Buch
Namestnikov-Zibanejad-FA
Spooner-Hayes-Fast
Beleskey-Nieves-Lettieri
Holland

Skjei-Pionk
Gilmour-Shattenkirk
Staal-DeAngelo
Kampfer

Hank
Georgiev
 
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Kreider-Zibanejad-Buchnevich
Spooner-Hayes-Zuccarello
Namestnikov-Andersson/Howden-Chytil
Nieves-Howden/Andersson-Fast

Skjei-Shattenkirk
Gilmour-Pionk
Hajek-DeAngelo

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Play the kids and go for Hughes. I also think neither of Spooner or Namestnikov are Cs long term. Also probably wishful thinking Hajek is ready next year but eh.
Don't like the idea of playing Andersson or Howden on the fourth line. Let at least one of the continue development in Hartford. Also Hajek could use a year down there
 
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Going to assume Zucc gets moved and we do nothing else but sign a depth FA.

Kreider-Chytil-Buch
Namestnikov-Zibanejad-FA
Spooner-Hayes-Fast
Beleskey-Nieves-Lettieri
Holland

Skjei-Pionk
Gilmour-Shattenkirk
Staal-DeAngelo
Kampfer

Hank
Georgiev


I can get behind this.

I could even see them signing Filppula and starting Chytil on the wing.
 

EpicDing

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Don't like the idea of playing Andersson or Howden on the fourth line. Let at least one of the continue development in Hartford. Also Hajek could use a year down there

The 4 lines would ideally be rolled fairly evenly with this setup. Agreed on Hajek though, but like I said wishful thinking.
 
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