Okay so weber may be a #1D right now but do you really believe he will be as good in maybe three or four years? I would never give up player a player like that just for a few years of a soon to be overpriced defenseman
If the trade was Nylander for Drew Doughty or Erik Karlsson with the promise they would sign a long term extension, it's something Leafs fans would consider a lot more instead of Nylander for Shea Weber.
Joke aside, Weber would be valuable to Toronto....and he would be a target. The problem is what Bergy paid to get Weber in the 1st place....he's going to want to recoup that, and no way is anyone offering anything close. If we could land Weber for a futures package (not Liljegren), i would do it...but Habs fans will take that as an insult, which is fine.
This is wrong. Rielly had 25 of his 52 points on the power play. Leafs also use 4 forwards on the PP so Rielly & Weber wouldn’t pair on it.
I still wouldn't want him no matter the cost. His contract does not expire until 2026.
Lets be honest, as fun as it is to ride Habs fans about Weber's contract, in 2022-23 (4 years) his salary drops to 3 million...will he play for that? Maybe....but the 3 years after that, it drops to 1 million....he's going to retire. So, he's going to play for 4...possibly 5 years, at the right price to acquire, i'd do it.
Honestly if Toronto wanted to trade for a #1 elite right handed defenseman I rather it be Drew Doughty since he's a lot younger than Weber.
While i won't argue, Doughty (if available) is going to cost a crap ton...depending on what direction the Habs are going in, they may want to move that contract for some futures.
Among the Leafs big 3 between Matthews, Marner and Nylander I would be willing to include Nylander in a trade for Doughty.
Yup I’d do 25 + Martin + Bergies pick of any non NHL roster guy not named Dermott Johnsson Liljegren.
I wouldn't even force them to take Martin, but would add another later pick if they did.
Would you at least make the 1st round pick conditional on Toronto making the playoffs or are you speaking hypothetically if they traded for him before the draft next Friday and don't mind giving up the 25th overall pick?
I have no issue trading #25 for a D upgrade....and Weber is.
What about their 1st round pick in 2019? If they traded that for Weber should it not be a conditional 1st round pick?
Again, Weber is still a very good player, he holds more value than a conditional 1st, and why gamble? If the Leafs stumble next season the 1st might be better than 25.
I'll bet you would. That's why Edmonton is a terrible franchise. Grit over skill is exactly how to build a losing team and the leafs are fine not going down that road
Because no team even if they are expected to do well should never trade a 1st round pick without any conditions 1 year from the next draft. We saw what happened when Brian Burke did that for Phil Kessel.
absolutely no. leafs fans hate the original proposal, and you think making a worse offer is the best thing to do?
