Ny Rangers put Brendan Smith on waivers

[Redder Winger]

So in the 31 games he's played less than 18 mins a night he's 2-7-9, let's take out the 5 games he played less than 12 mins, with no points. So 26 games between 12-18 mins with 2-7-9? Sounds like Blash plays him more when he's playing well.

I don't think the data supports that assertion.
If you look at his game logs chronologically, there's nothing to suggest that AA has somehow deserved to have his TOI reduced, or bumped up.
The first time his icetime was bumped, it was after a game where he was -2 with no points.
He plays 3 straight games over 18 minutes and produces 3-2-5 and gets reduced.
In late December, he had two games where he averaged a little more than 10 minutes a game and he went -2 with zero points.
Suddenly he's granted 20 minutes a night for 8 games, going 5-4-9. In that eighth game he went 1-1-2 in 19:24.
The next two games his TOI drops and he's only been over 18 minutes twice 10 games since.


But by all means, award Blashill the Jack Adams for his masterful use of Athanasiou.

 

[Ezekial]

Yup I love Jeff Blashill.

 

[kliq]

Sure.
Would he? I don't know.
But I can tell you that it's pretty obvious that he's produced when he's played more.
Andreas Athanasiou 2017-18 Game Log | Hockey-Reference.com
Sort by Time On Ice.

Some guys play better the more they play. They're more engaged.

I dont agree, but I could easily be wrong. Hopefully I am lol, as I would love it if AA could sustain that playing 20min/night.

 

[jkutswings]

I don't think the data supports that assertion.
If you look at his game logs chronologically, there's nothing to suggest that AA has somehow deserved to have his TOI reduced, or bumped up.
The first time his icetime was bumped, it was after a game where he was -2 with no points.
He plays 3 straight games over 18 minutes and produces 3-2-5 and gets reduced.
In late December, he had two games where he averaged a little more than 10 minutes a game and he went -2 with zero points.
Suddenly he's granted 20 minutes a night for 8 games, going 5-4-9. In that eighth game he went 1-1-2 in 19:24.
The next two games his TOI drops and he's only been over 18 minutes twice 10 games since.


But by all means, award Blashill the Jack Adams for his masterful use of Athanasiou.

Then stop using data as the only piece of the puzzle.

Maybe ice time was adjusted by good (or bad) things said or done in practice. Or in team meetings. Or any number of other facets of being a professional hockey player.

Yes, certain stats suggest that AA deserves more ice time. But as much as I'd like this team to shift towards a style that plays to AA's strengths, even I can say that AA has shortcomings that are bigger than his stats, and he has considerable work to do if he's ever going to make full use of his talents.

 

[Redder Winger]

Then stop using data as the only piece of the puzzle.

Maybe ice time was adjusted by good (or bad) things said or done in practice. Or in team meetings. Or any number of other facets of being a professional hockey player.

Yes, certain stats suggest that AA deserves more ice time. But as much as I'd like this team to shift towards a style that plays to AA's strengths, even I can say that AA has shortcomings that are bigger than his stats, and he has considerable work to do if he's ever going to make full use of his talents.

Could be. Or maybe this coach is f***ing idiot.

 

[jkutswings]

Could be. Or maybe this coach is ****ing idiot.

Or maybe both the player and the coach are very flawed, and said flaws are not necessarily captured via sabermetrics.

 

[BinCookin]

there is a reason you don't see tsn constantly showing Pts/60 stats :/

 

[dragonballgtz]

There is a lot of AA talk in a thread about Smith

 

[Henkka]

Brendan Smith on a highlight video...



Was that somekind of controller disconnected?

 

[Oddbob]

Brendan Smith on a highlight video...



Was that somekind of controller disconnected?

That goal is on the other guy who gave it away, not on Smith.

 

[Christien]

Brendan Smith on a highlight video...



Was that somekind of controller disconnected?

f***ing hilarious

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

That goal is on the other guy who gave it away, not on Smith.

Saw this one live last night. Brutal giveaway Smith might have gotten lucky hooking shoulders and taking him down for two minutes in the box, but he basically got caught in nomans land and couldn't bail out his partner.

 

[Kronwalled55]

Smith is a perfect example of having the build but no brain.

 

[Peter Tosh]

Don’t like the guy. Glad to see him fail. He will be in Edmonton

 

[Konnan511]

Don’t like the guy. Glad to see him fail. He will be in Edmonton

Ooof, did he sleep with your girlfriend? I'm glad he's off the Wings, but actively rooting for someone to fail? Come on man.

 

[Peter Tosh]

Ooof, did he sleep with your girlfriend? I'm glad he's off the Wings, but actively rooting for someone to fail? Come on man.

My bad. Just saw the headline of him being waived and thought it was happening again.

 

[Henkka]

My bad. Just saw the headline of him being waived and thought it was happening again.

But it certainly looks like that he isn't the Top minute Defencemen there...

Trouba - 26:50
Skjei - 24:33
Fox - 24:12
Hajek - 19:52
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Smith - 11:28
Crawley - 10:39

Well used 4.3M or whatever...

 

[newfy]

That goal is on the other guy who gave it away, not on Smith.

I mean sure chirp Smith I guess, people on here dont like him but youre right. Anyone who can watch that and say what happened was Smith's fault doesnt have a clue what theyre talking about

 

[Fil Larkmanthanasiou]

He will probably end up in Edmonton

 

[MBH]

That goal is on the other guy who gave it away, not on Smith.

Yeah, no fan of Smith, but yeah.

 

[Mijatovic]

Smith would probably be the 3rd best defenceman on the Red Wings at the moment.

I mean we just did give waiver wire Nemeth $3m to be in our top 4

 

[RabidBadger]

Well, I'll miss Smitty turning Andrew Shaw into his personal punching bag everytime they play. Watching Shaw get pummeled never gets old for me.

 

[RedMenace]

Did he get put on waivers again or... why is this being bumped from over a year ago?

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Yeah when thinking on this more, this is closed. Not a Wings player anymore and a little tired of intentionally trying to make this board even more negative.