GDT: NXT TakeOver:WarGames (18th November 2017) - We’re going to need a bigger ring...

Brodeur

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I had low expectations for the Black/Dream match and was I happy to be wrong about that.

Earmarked Takeover next year in LA.
 

Hypernova

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I'm not even sure Ember Moon has a character. She talks and acts like a normal person, then comes to the ring with coloured contacts on. Is that character?

Other than her finisher, she's really boring. Peyton Royce has the full package IMO. Would love to see her turn on Billie one day on main roster.

I have no idea what Ember is going for. Her look, theme and entrance makes her out to be dark and mysterious but then she talks and none of that comes through at all. Like you said, she just acts like a normal person. At least give us the batman voice or something.
 
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Emperoreddy

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Ember doesn’t have a character. She is just a chick that likes werewolves.

To be fair Kairi doesn’t have a character either. She is the chick that likes pirates. Different is Kairi has a magantec plucky, underdog personality that makes her likeable.

Ember really has nothing. She is incredibly bland. I think she could benefit from a heel turn at some point.
 

Kimi

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I agree that Ember is missing something (and I'm saying that as a big fan), but you can't say that people don't get behind her in matches. Even at the dead Full Sail tapings she gets them. She's obviously doing something right, just needs that extra something that comes across on TV better (and for someone to stop giving her terrible scripts).
 

Emperoreddy

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Well she is still really talented in ring even if she she currently has the character of a plank of wood

NXT fans appreciate work rate more then main roster crowds. She needs to find something or she is going to fail on the main roster. Personality means more to those crowds.
 

garnetpalmetto

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Ember doesn’t have a character. She is just a chick that likes werewolves.

To be fair Kairi doesn’t have a character either. She is the chick that likes pirates. Different is Kairi has a magantec plucky, underdog personality that makes her likeable.

Ember really has nothing. She is incredibly bland. I think she could benefit from a heel turn at some point.

I see it the other way. To me Ember had a plucky, underdog personality going into her matches with Asuka that made her likeable. The talent just oozes off of her and I love the Eclipse as a finisher. I'll be interested to see how they approach her now that she has the belt.

Kairi, on the other hand, I see as bland. She's the chick that likes pirates and that's about it. FWIW I tend to see Nikki as bland too. She's crazy, she screams, shrieks, spits, and mutters things, but...that's about it.
 

GKJ

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I agree that Ember is missing something (and I'm saying that as a big fan), but you can't say that people don't get behind her in matches. Even at the dead Full Sail tapings she gets them. She's obviously doing something right, just needs that extra something that comes across on TV better (and for someone to stop giving her terrible scripts).
She probably should just stop talking altogether.
 

UnrealMachine

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I see it the other way. To me Ember had a plucky, underdog personality going into her matches with Asuka that made her likeable. The talent just oozes off of her and I love the Eclipse as a finisher. I'll be interested to see how they approach her now that she has the belt.

Kairi, on the other hand, I see as bland. She's the chick that likes pirates and that's about it. FWIW I tend to see Nikki as bland too. She's crazy, she screams, shrieks, spits, and mutters things, but...that's about it.

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M.C.G. 31

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I get Ember and Kairi not having characters. Ember... I just don't know what she's supposed to be, and Kairi looks like she just likes to play dress up, I don't know what the deal is with the pirate shit.

Nikki? No way. She has a good, psychotic, fleshed out character, imo.
 

garnetpalmetto

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I get Ember and Kairi not having characters. Ember... I just don't know what she's supposed to be, and Kairi looks like she just likes to play dress up, I don't know what the deal is with the pirate ****.

Nikki? No way. She has a good, psychotic, fleshed out character, imo.

I'd agree about Nikki if she promod more. I can think of maybe 2-3 promos she's done and at least one of those were her essentially saying Ruby Riot's name a few times and saying she wanted to play again.
 

Lunatik

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I get Ember and Kairi not having characters. Ember... I just don't know what she's supposed to be, and Kairi looks like she just likes to play dress up, I don't know what the deal is with the pirate ****.

Nikki? No way. She has a good, psychotic, fleshed out character, imo.
From my understanding the pirate thing is due to Kairi being an accomplished sailor.
 

AfroThunder396

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I wish Ember was a spooky lights-out magic girl.

Wrestling magic, when done well, is a lot of fun. Taker, Wyatt, Kane, Balor. Love that stuff. We haven't really had a female do that kind of psychological spooky stuff.
 
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Engebretson

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We just started a Hulu subscription and I did not know that not only do I get to watch NXT episodes, but I get to watch the Takeover events too.

-Didn't really pay much attention to the Lars/Ohno match. Wasn't really the opening match that gets the crowd all worked up.
-Black/Dream was pretty awesome. That DDT that Dream used was pretty sweet looking and Black sold it like a champ. Loved the crowd chanting "say his name!" the whole match too.
-The women's match was fine. Peyton looks like she could be very good and I thought all 4 women looked pretty strong. It was just the one move at the end when everyone was nearly dead that won it, although the setup for the finish was way too obvious.
-Almas/McIntyre was fine too. Was surprised at the title change, as Almas doesn't seem like a long-term champ, but we'll see. The finish caught me by surprise too.
-Wargames match was pretty awesome, although you see the logistical nightmare of having things going on in two different rings. I really dig Undefeated Era and their movesets, particularly the "Chasing the Dragon" move with Fish and O'Reilly. Really excited to see the fallout from this for all of the teams.
 

UnrealMachine

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I re-watched Dream/Black, Fatal 4-way and War Games last night. Of note that I watched it with someone who doesn't watch NXT, so I was able to relive much of the excitement through her reactions:

-Black/Dream: this match/feud will pretty much deliver until the end of time.
-Fatal 4-way: pretty much the same reaction I had the first go. Solid match. Wasn't quite as short as I had initially remembered it to be.
- War Games: seemed even better on the 2nd watch after the initial 3-way to start the match, which is a little boring. Just an excellent performance by all involved.

I realize this isn't some in-depth analysis, I just was curious how it would hold up to a 2nd viewing. Quite well in my experience.
 

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