Proposal: Noah Hanifin to New Jersey at the draft

[Stephen Gionta]

for Pavel Zacha, Damon Severson, John Quenneville, Blake Speers

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[Big Daddy Cane]

I don't mean to overrate Hanifin's trade value, particularly after a dismal 2nd half to his season, but I don't see an expendable centerpiece in New Jersey that would motivate the Canes to give up on his potential at this point.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Here’s a helpful hint:

If you have to keep adding multiple pieces in a trade for a highly touted young player to try and make the value even then your proposal probably isn’t going to work.

Quality, not quantity.

Players like that don’t get traded for four pieces. They get swapped for one good piece whichfor is would have to be a good centre of comparable age otherwise we don’t entertain the idea of moving him.

 

[Savant]

I didnt realize the Devils were ready to give up on Nico already.

Because if they want Hanifin...

 

[varano]

for Pavel Zacha, Damon Severson, John Quenneville, Blake Speers

Are you ok?

 

[MartyOwns]

bruh

 

[DaveG]

Put down the NHL 18. Canes aren't going to be trading Hanifin for anything less then a young #1C coming back, and with the depth they have in the system they should be the ones looking to ship out some assets for another high-end player, not ship out one of the few high-end assets they have for a quantity type return.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

This is the best proposal I've seen in a while. It deserves a song:



EDIT: Okay, to be fair the value is fine in a vacuum...but in practice this doesn't interest the 'Canes at all.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Severson underrated here I see

The proposal is fair/slightly favors Carolina value wise but don't see either team doing it

 

[bluedevil58]

Nope. You are going to need to give up one of Hischier or Hall. Your choice. Dman command a higher return that what was proposed.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

I didnt realize the Devils were ready to give up on Nico already.

Because if they want Hanifin...

Noah Hanifin wouldn't get you a sniff of Nico Hischier. I would trade a Schenider package for Hanifin.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Cory Schneider + Damon Severson for Noah Hanifin + Scott Darling

 

[GoldiFox]

I don’t see that big a difference between Severson and Hanifin. Severson is a good comparable to how Hanifin is playing right now.

However Hanifin is 3 years younger and the hope is that he improves significantly. In any case, if the Canes are trading Hanifin it won’t be for another D with Hanifin’s same issues. It would be for a #1C (ROR?), a guy with #1C potential, or a top-end W.

 

[bluedevil58]

Noah Hanifin wouldn't get you a sniff of Nico Hischier. I would trade a Schenider package for Hanifin.

You ain't getting Hanifin then.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

You ain't getting Hanifin then.

That's fine, I don't even like Hanifin, he is an upgrade to Severson though.

 

[Stephen Gionta]

I don’t see that big a difference between Severson and Hanifin. Severson is a good comparable to how Hanifin is playing right now.

However Hanifin is 3 years younger and the hope is that he improves significantly. In any case, if the Canes are trading Hanifin it won’t be for another D with Hanifin’s same issues. It would be for a #1C (ROR?), a guy with #1C potential, or a top-end W.

This is why I think the Zacha add can make it work... Zacha was drafted just one spot after Hanifin. they both still have lots of potential

 

[135ace]

I don’t see that big a difference between Severson and Hanifin. Severson is a good comparable to how Hanifin is playing right now.

However Hanifin is 3 years younger and the hope is that he improves significantly. In any case, if the Canes are trading Hanifin it won’t be for another D with Hanifin’s same issues. It would be for a #1C (ROR?), a guy with #1C potential, or a top-end W.

Pretty much my sentiments as well. Hanifin isn’t that big of an upgrade over Severson and JQ and Speers aren’t worth much. Why add Zacha to Severson just to get Hanifin? Doesn’t really fill either teams needs unless Noah or Pavel take a major leap in terms of development.
I don’t think NJ and Carolina are good trade partners.

 

[Canes]

No interest at all trading Hanifin to a team within our division barring a huge overpayment. And Zacha and a realistic plus is certainly not that.

 

[GoldiFox]

This is why I think the Zacha add can make it work... Zacha was drafted just one spot after Hanifin. they both still have lots of potential

Pretty much my sentiments as well. Hanifin isn’t that big of an upgrade over Severson and JQ and Speers aren’t worth much. Why add Zacha to Severson just to get Hanifin? Doesn’t really fill either teams needs unless Noah or Pavel take a major leap in terms of development.
I don’t think NJ and Carolina are good trade partners.

Kmz nailed it.

Canes probably wouldn’t make this trade unless Zacha took the next step towards being a #1C.
Devils probably wouldn’t make this trade unless Hanifin toon the next step towards being a #1D.

It doesn’t fill a need for either team right now and there isn’t much point in lateral risk trading.

 

[CheMxDawG]

You realize we're in the same division right?

Not trading Hanifin for anything less than an elite scorer whose name rhymes with Smaylor Tall.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

You realize we're in the same division right?

Not trading Hanifin for anything less than an elite scorer whose name rhymes with Smaylor Tall.

That's hilarious since NJ has an 18/19 year old center worth much more than Hanifin. Either way, keep him.

 

[CraigsList]

Noah Hanifin wouldn't get you a sniff of Nico Hischier. I would trade a Schenider package for Hanifin.

Uhhh, Hanifin and Hischier are of the same value. How nice that you’re more than willing to trade Schneider for him though!

 

[GoldiFox]

Uhhh, Hanifin and Hischier are of the same value. How nice that you’re more than willing to trade Schneider for him though!

Slavin = Hischier >>> Hanifin >>> Schneider

 

[member 157595]

Uhhh, Hanifin and Hischier are of the same value. How nice that you’re more than willing to trade Schneider for him though!

Hischier definitely has more trade value than Noah Hanifin right now.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Uhhh, Hanifin and Hischier are of the same value. How nice that you’re more than willing to trade Schneider for him though!

How can a defensmen having a disappointing sophmore and 3rd season be worth the 1st overall pick having an amazing all around season. I'm sorry but Hanifin is trending down if anything while Hischier is sky high. One is on the block while one is completely untouchable.