NHL 2017/2018 TV ratings

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Jets4Life

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Many Ottawa playoff games have not sold out in recent years including a GAME 6 ECF. If an American team didn't sell out a game 6 of a conference final Canadians would be screaming for relocation.
Source: Senators owner: Lack of Game 6 sellout 'very disturbing' - Sportsnet.ca

Thank you. You just validated what I said about Ottawa in a previous post.


That was 2016, and ratings went as expected since no Canadian teams qualified for the playoffs. Ratings have rebounded back to normal levels since. Why not find a year when Toronto and a couple of other Canadian teams make the playoffs on Rogers TV. You need to come up with Canadian TV ratings since the beginning of the Rogers TV contract to validate your argument. You cannot be selective.


All 3 articles you posted are about participation rates, not TV ratings. Participation in sport does not translate into TV ratings, which is what the thread topic is all about. If this were the case, MLS would be the #1 watched league in Canada. As I said earlier, I agree that more Canadians are PARTICIPATING in different sports, mainly due to the rising cost of enrolling a child in hockey, as opposed to soccer or basketball. Soccer is the sport with the highest participation level in Canada, but it has never translated into ratings from MLS even remotely close to the NHL in Canada.

As for basketball, the real test will be to see if kids in Canada are flocking to basketball when the Raptors inevitably fall back to earth, and have rebuilding years. This is not unprecedented in Canada. There was a huge jump in baseball participation during the 80s/early 90s, when the Blue Jays were one of the top teams in baseball. Ratings and participation fell when they started losing.

Thank you for proving two of my three statements. I appreciate it.
 
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It will cause a ratings decline in the future as there is less interest. This should be a concern, unless the NHL finally gets that large US TV contract.

You are incorrect. Hockey participation in Canada, especially with youth, has declined from 20 years ago. However, ratings for the NHL, Olympics, and International hockey have either increased or remained the same. This thread is about hockey ratings, not participation rates. I'm not sure why you and TheNextBigThing cannot comprehend that.
 
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Many Ottawa playoff games have not sold out in recent years including a GAME 6 ECF. If an American team didn't sell out a game 6 of a conference final Canadians would be screaming for relocation.
Source: Senators owner: Lack of Game 6 sellout 'very disturbing' - Sportsnet.ca

Playoff ratings have been down in recent years.
Source: Playoff TV ratings down a 'shocking' 61 percent in Canada | The Hockey News

As for the younger generation turning to basketball and soccer over hockey (I could list hundreds of articles):
How Basketball Overtook Hockey As The Most Popular Youth Sport In Canada
How the Sports Landscape in Canada Is Changing
Three reasons why basketball is gaining popularity in Canada - Sportsnet.ca

Are my claims so ridiculous now?

what the hell does the bolded have to do with ratings?

do you think that basketball has nothing but fans who have played the game? or is it possibly that ESPN has force fed that sport down everyone's throat and all those 5-8/5'9 white boys now follow the sport despite never playing the game...participation does not equal ratings/attendance lol!!
 

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You are incorrect. Hockey participation in Canada, especially with youth, has declined from 20 years ago. However, ratings for the NHL, Olympics, and International hockey have either increased or remained the same. This thread is about hockey ratings, not participation rates. I'm not sure why you and TheNextBigThing cannot comprehend that.
I was talking about particiption, but did predict a decline in ratings in the future, not that there is one now or even recently. I don't dispute what you are saying.
 

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Does anyone know why tonight's game didn't go to NBC on a Sunday? NHL has been fighting TV for the longest time. It's unfortunate because lack of TV has caused pressure on the team I root for. ABC will have every NBA finals game. I get it's a smaller viewership, but the SCF will be on NBCSN for a majority of the games.

NBC has the Players Championship rights for the day in sunday and NBC isn’t going to put a non-Final game on primetime on a Sunday during sweeps.

Of course this is the last year of the Players Championship being held on Mother’s Day weekend. The tournament is moving back to March next year with the PGA Championship (which Turner/CBS own the rights too) moving from August to that weekend in May. So next year there will probably be a Sunday day game during the first week of the conference Final.
 

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NBC from a business standpoint is pulling for Washington to make the SCF as they own the NBC OTA outlet in DC ( WRC-TV)

The NBA ratings will be huge in the conference finals as the smallest market remaining is Cleveland.

What NBC has noticed is VGK is getting traction in the LA market.
 

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Stanley Cup, 3rd Round, Day 3 (Sunday):

WASHINGTON/TAMPA BAY 1.9M (NBCSN)

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Another sports events on Sunday:

NBA: CLEVELAND/BOSTON 7.2M (ABC)

MLB: WASHINGTON/ARIZONA 1.2M (ESPN)

LIGA MX: AMERICA / SANTOS 1.M (UND)

FORMULA 1 GRAND : SPANISH GRAND PRIX COVERAGE 499k (ESPN2)

MLS: ORLANDO CITY/ATLANTA UTD 285k (FS1)
 
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You do realize that the Washington market includes suburbs of Washington, and not just the DC area? The metro Washington area is interchangeable with just about any large US metro area. Last time I checked, the city of Detroit had a higher % of minorities than Washington, DC, but get great ratings for hockey. 8.2 is not a great rating.

It's not great numbers, no, and it's not comparable to a real hockey market at all. But there is definitely growth potential - remember that the numbers in Detroit and Pittsburgh are driven by generations of fans who've seen their team win championships. If the Caps win the Cup then that bandwagon is going to grow significantly, too.
 

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NBC from a business standpoint is pulling for Washington to make the SCF as they own the NBC OTA outlet in DC ( WRC-TV)

The NBA ratings will be huge in the conference finals as the smallest market remaining is Cleveland.

What NBC has noticed is VGK is getting traction in the LA market.
And Cleveland has LeBron.
 
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I'm sure you will have dozens of excuses, but Winnipeg (who plays in the smallest arena in the NHL) did NOT sell out game 2 of the WCF. Canadians would be screaming for relocation if a sunbelt team didn't sell out a conference final game.
Source: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/winnipeg-wcf-games-arent-selling-out.2492027/

Can you please stick with the thread topic? It's "TV Ratings." I cannot debate with you any longer, since you have already fabricated TV Ratings, and drawn the thread off topic, by discussing things completely unrelated to NHL TV ratings. I would explain it to you, but it's obvious you are just here to troll people. You have your answers already, as you have been viewing the thread you posted.
 
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does this cover the 10,000 plus people standing right outside the building? I am sure every team has this right?? hahaha
Not too sure what a watch party has to do with not selling out a playoff game, but every team has watch parties. In fact the Knights have multiple. One at Toshiba Place outside T-Mobile. One downtown at the D events center, and one at The Red rock Casino
 

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Not too sure what a watch party has to do with not selling out a playoff game, but every team has watch parties. In fact the Knights have multiple. One at Toshiba Place outside T-Mobile. One downtown at the D events center, and one at The Red rock Casino
hahahaha no they don't, nobody has anything like that going right now...you are acting like there isn't enough fans to sell out for a playoff game when there are as many outside the damn building as inside...so yeah it has plenty to do with your false narrative.. watch party?? lol...
 

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hahahaha no they don't, nobody has anything like that going right now...you are acting like there isn't enough fans to sell out for a playoff game when there are as many outside the damn building as inside...so yeah it has plenty to do with your false narrative.. watch party?? lol...
I wasn't the one who brought up Winnipeg not selling out, I could care less if they do or not, so don't jump down my throat. I was just pointing out other teams fans watch the games outside the arena, it isn' unique to MTS center.
 

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In head-to-head Buffalo TV ratings, who triumphs: NBA or NHL playoffs?

The 3-1 victory by Las Vegas over Winnipeg Monday in the second game of the Western Conference Finals of the Stanley Cup playoffs had a 4.2 local rating on cable's NBCSN.
The Golden State Warriors' 119-106 victory over the Houston Rockets Monday in the first game of the Western Conference Finals in the NBA had a 4.2 local rating on TNT. It started an hour later than the hockey game.

On Tuesday night, Tampa Bay's 4-2 victory over Washington in the third game of the Eastern Conference Finals of the Stanley Cup playoffs had a 4.6 local rating on NBCSN.
The Boston Celtics' 107-94 victory over the Cleveland Cavaliers Tuesday night in the Eastern Conference Finals had the same 4.6 local rating on ESPN. The game started 30 minutes after the hockey game.

In head-to-head Buffalo TV ratings, who triumphs: NBA or NHL playoffs?
 

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Golden Knights, Jets draw massive TV ratings

From a couple of days ago...
The series between the Golden Knights and Winnipeg Jets is the most-watched Western Conference Final not involving Chicago in NBC Sports Group history, the network announced Tuesday.
The Knights and Jets are averaging a Total Audience Delivery of 1.841 million viewers through two games, making it the most-watched Western Conference Final since 2015 when Chicago downed Anaheim.
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Las Vegas produced its best rating ever for an NHL game, a 15.3 rating for Game 1 on NBC. The city had 13.0 local rating for Game 2 on NBCSN, the market’s second-best rating for a cable game behind Game 6 vs. San Jose (14.0).
 
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