Next Year's HHOF Inductions...

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  1. ErikBrannstrom

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    Marty Brodeur
    Marty St.louis
    Daniel Alfredsson
    Curtis Joseph

    Bryan Murray

    Those are my choices for next year's class.
     
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    And that was enough of a reason to put him in.

    Housley was one of only 8 defensemen to reach 1000 points. That's why he's in.
    Andreychuk was one of only 9 players to score over 600 goals and captain his team to a SC. That's why he's in.

    Nothing else matters for those two players.
    The HOF is not just about single season top 10 finishes and trophies. The HOF is not just about peak and prime.
     
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    The back log is ridiculous...
    Manon Rheaume (as a player not this stupid builder crap)
    Kim St-Pierre
    Kim Martin
    Jenny Potter
    Chanda Gunn
    Vicky Sunohara
    Jennifer Botterill
    Jayna Hefford
    Sarah Tueting
    Hong Guo
    Erin Whitten
    Cherie Piper
    Krissy Wendell-Pohl
    Tuula Puputti

    I'm sure I'm still missing some.
     
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    I don't think that's what it boils down to. You're over-rating longevity (IMO). What you've basically shown is that Roenick had about one truly elite season and a handful of borderline ones.

    My question is: Does a handful of borderline and 'very-good' seasons make a Hall of Famer?

    It shouldn't, but sadly the Hall seems to think it does.

    Ah well, if nothing else, Roenick's induction speech should be entertaining...
     
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    Brodeur and St. Louis are obvious. I am not optimistic to see who else is added. Ideally I would like them to start adding European greats who never played in the NHL. Firsov is probably the player I would most like to see added.
     
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    Look what happened in the years that Wayne Gretzky and Patrick Roy were inducted, because Wayne Gretzky is the greatest player of all-time, and Patrick Roy is arguably the best goaltender of all-time. There were 5 inductees in 1999, and Wayne Gretzky was the only inductee from the player category, because, I'm assuming, the voters played the "Gretzky is peerless" game. Legends of Hockey - Induction Showcase - 1999 Induction

    Then in 2006 they inducted Patrick Roy with a player from a different era, because Patrick Roy is "peerless." That player was Dick Duff from the 50s-60s and early-70s. Legends of Hockey Net - An official web channel of the Hockey Hall of Fame . They also inducted the deceased coach, Herb Brooks.

    I think the Hockey Hall Of Fame voting committee will play this game again in 2018 with Martin Brodeur being the only inductee in the player category, or they will vote to induct players from a different era with Brodeur, because Brodeur is "peerless" and they will induct a female player as well, and a coach.

    MY PREDICTION

    THE 2018 HOCKEY HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

    01. Martin Brodeur
    02. Lorne Chabot
    03. Jayna Hefford
    04. Bryan Murray

    The Contenders
    Legends of Hockey - Induction Showcase - 2016 Induction Eligibility
     
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    I don't think Joseph should have to wait any longer

    He's more deserving than the likes of Alfie and Roenick
     
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    to me it is a no brainer that fleury deserves in before alfredsson but i suspect the opposite will hold true.

    roenick's career started off brilliantly but he was like a circus sideshow at the end, i'm on the fence with him.
     
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    For sure. Plus after the legends game last weekend, I'd gladly make that drive again for Team Brodeur vs. Team Joseph.

    Brodeur
    St. Louis
    Joseph
    Fleury

    I have an incredible amount of sympathy for Theo Fleury, and I wouldn't be surprised if there is a media push for him, especially given the stories that have dominated the news lately.
     
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    How does Joseph have a better case than Barrasso?

    Joseph
    - more career wins

    Barrasso
    More and higher...
    - Vezina votes
    - top-10 stat finishes
    - AST honours
    Won a Vezina
    Back stopped 2 Stanley Cup winners
     
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    Oh, and Bryan Murray. LOL.
     
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    On topic
    Brodeur
    St-Louis
    Some other player (ONLY ONE PLEASE)
    Kim St-Pierre
     
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    He'd be a decent 3rd wheel this season, along with Brodeur and St-Louis.
     
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    Brind'Amour would be my 4, though I know Brindy would be a divisive pick. There's a lot of guys that could get in that would be able to make as valid of a claim.

    Still can't believe that Andreychuk got in over Alfredsson or Brind'Amour. I mean, I can believe it, I just REALLY disagree with it.
     
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    That's the thing....
    If the 4th pick is divisive, abstain from making a 4th pick...?
     
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    And that wouldn't be the worst thing, though I'd prefer they take the approach of righting wrongs by inducting people that are still on the outside looking in either due to WHA and how they left the NHL (Tremblay) or that they were an international that never really got the chance at the NHL (Mikhailov) if there's not a good 4th option.

    But all said, even if Brind'Amour (or Roenick, or Fleury) would be divisive, given that guys like Housley, Andreychuk, and Dino have been inducted would they really be all that divisive in comparison?
     
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    Hell, you might actually add Alfie to that list if you deem Fleury to be divisive.
     
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    I didn't say he had a better case, but who exactly was Barrasso's competition for the Vezina?

    Fuhr? Smith? Liut? Vanbiesbrouk?

    Solid list of goaltenders, but they pale in comparison to the likes of Hasek, Roy, Brodeur and Belfour

    Was Barrasso even a top 5 player on those Cup winning teams? Maybe. But there are lots of non-Hall of Fame goalies who would've come away with 2 Cups had they been Pittsburgh's starter in the early 90's
     
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    You know the reason why that particular user namedropped him, and it's not even related to Barrasso's achievements.
     
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    And Hasek, Roy, Brodeur, Belfour are going to be in the HHOF for being the best goalies in a low scoring era. Plus, Joseph isn't clearly the 5th best goalie from his own era.

    Meanwhile, one of the best goalies from mid-80's to mid-90's is ignored.

    Isn't that just the reverse of inducting every Tom, Dick and Harry who scored some points in the 1980's and ignoring the DPE? Is Joseph the Andreychuk of goalies?

    Anyways, I think that Barrasso posted a career that would normally be worth celebrating.
     
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    If you come up with material like this :

    I MIGHT, and I say MIGHT, call you on it.
     
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    Bryan Murray is very qualified to be inducted in the non-player category.
     
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    The only thing he has over Jacques Demers is that he speaks the good language.
    And I'm not quite sure Demers is the guy with the best case either, though we're getting at a point where 2X Jack Adams + The Most Gutsy Coach Call of all Stanley Cups Coach Calls should be a ****ing no brainer.
     
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