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[Bleifooss]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=130082&hubName=nhl

"We lost a season for no reason," Legace told The Associated Press. "We should've crumbled last September when the owners wanted a salary cap."

"It makes no sense what we ended up doing," Legace said. "For years, Bob was telling us, `No cap. Owners aren't telling us the truth about their books.' Then out of nowhere, he gives the owners a 24-per cent rollback and it looked like we were panicking.

"Then after saying we wouldn't even consider a salary cap, he backed down on that at the last minute just before the lockout. It was too late, and now we're taking a worse deal."

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[Icey]

Old news. Already a dozen threads on this same article.

 

[NHLFanSince2020]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=130082&hubName=nhl

"We lost a season for no reason," Legace told The Associated Press. "We should've crumbled last September when the owners wanted a salary cap."

"It makes no sense what we ended up doing," Legace said. "For years, Bob was telling us, `No cap. Owners aren't telling us the truth about their books.' Then out of nowhere, he gives the owners a 24-per cent rollback and it looked like we were panicking.

"Then after saying we wouldn't even consider a salary cap, he backed down on that at the last minute just before the lockout. It was too late, and now we're taking a worse deal."

Then after saying we wouldn't even consider a salary cap, he backed down on that at the last minute just before the lockout.

I think he meant right before the season was cancelled.

Anyway, I can't get enough of the players bashing useless Bob.

 

[NHLFanSince2020]

Legace said when he was a players' representative for the Red Wings during the 2003-04 season, he publicly said the union should accept a salary cap.

"Bob came to one of our games and screamed at me in our dressing room after I said that," Legace said. "He freaked out on me. He thought I was showing a sign of weakness."

We can add nut case to Bob's growing resume.

 

[NHLFanSince2020]

Old news. Already a dozen threads on this same article.

It's a new article, check the date.

Legace lets loose on NHLPA strategy

Manny Legace

Associated Press

7/9/2005 9:32:40 PM

DETROIT (AP) - Detroit Red Wings goalie Manny Legace criticized players' union head Bob Goodenow on Saturday for failing to reach a labour deal that could have saved the cancelled 2004-05 season.

 

[think-blue-]

Legace said when he was a players' representative for the Red Wings during the 2003-04 season, he publicly said the union should accept a salary cap.

"Bob came to one of our games and screamed at me in our dressing room after I said that," Legace said. "He freaked out on me. He thought I was showing a sign of weakness."

I can only imagine...but I Guess Legace calling him out publically is his way of getting back...
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We can add nut case to Bob's growing resume.

 

[Scoogs]

This is good stuff. Spill the beans Legace!!

 

[Bruwinz37]

We can add nut case to Bob's growing resume.

It all boils down to his enormous ego. He will never recover from the beating Bettman just gave him. IMO he is done as the union head. No confidence.

 

[Icey]

It's a new article, check the date.

Actually its the same article. The associated press picked up the Detroit article from a few days ago, and TSN published it, as they do a lot.

 

[dcav]

Good for Legace! I bet there will be many more players voicing their opinions of Bob very soon .

 

[NHLFanSince2020]

Actually its the same article. The associated press picked up the Detroit article from a few days ago, and TSN published it, as they do a lot.

Here is the previous thread:http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=148831&highlight=legace

Here is the article linked previously.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/112013520281360.xml

It's a different article.

 

[txomisc]

I can only imagine...but I Guess Legace calling him out publically is his way of getting back...
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Yeah I can only hope Legace stood up for himself on that occasion. He should have ripped Bob a new one right there.

 

[txomisc]

It all boils down to his enormous ego. He will never recover from the beating Bettman just gave him. IMO he is done as the union head. No confidence.

If it is about ego then he won. Secretly, he may enjoy having canceled the season. He proved he had the power to do so.

 

[Bruwinz37]

If it is about ego then he won. Secretly, he may enjoy having canceled the season. He proved he had the power to do so.

I seriously doubt he had Bettman shoving this victory down his throat. You may be right that he takes some morbid pleasure in cancelling a season, but I am sure he is ashamed beyond belief that he lost and now his players are calling him out on it.

 

[Hawker14]

well, what's done is done.

hopefully legace can move on emotionally !!

 

[Hockeycrazy3033]

Atta boy Manny!!!! Let everyone know what a rotten, worthless, no good, ******* that Goodenow is!

 

[txomisc]

I seriously doubt he had Bettman shoving this victory down his throat. You may be right that he takes some morbid pleasure in cancelling a season, but I am sure he is ashamed beyond belief that he lost and now his players are calling him out on it.

Well as more and more players speak out, it seems more and more like the man has something seriously wrong with him. I know he should feel ashamed, but im not sure he does. He may even feel like he is being unjustly persecuted. Like an abusive husband kind of scenario "After all I've done for you, how could you do this to me" I can't say I know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised either way.

 

[bladoww]

Actually its the same article. The associated press picked up the Detroit article from a few days ago, and TSN published it, as they do a lot.

Here is the previous thread:http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?...ighlight=legace

Here is the article linked previously.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/stori...13520281360.xml

It's a different article.

Yep... diff article - completely different quotes. Sweet!

 

[Scoogs]

I see a quote that I didn't want to read. But in any case I'm really not putting much thought to it either.

"They're not going to announce anything until it's 100-per cent finished and I'm sure they're not going to do it before the all-star game," said Legace, referring to baseball's all-star game Tuesday night in Detroit. "I'm hearing it's all but done and the lawyers have been looking over it, and that it could take 14 to 20 days."

Again, it doesn't make sense that lawyers will look over this for 14-20 more days.

 

[Hawker14]

I see a quote that I didn't want to read. But in any case I'm really not putting much thought to it either.



Again, it doesn't make sense that lawyers will look over this for 14-20 more days.

lawyers need work too !!

 

[blitzkriegs]

Again, it doesn't make sense that lawyers will look over this for 14-20 more days.

Sure. THey should look over a complex 600 document that will define the NHL/NHLPA partnership for the next 6 years in two days to satisfy you. Then, in 3 years when there is the infamous 'loophole' everyone is trying to find on these boards because the agreement was not thoroughly looked over enough, everyone will say - stupid lawyers why didn't they see that?

 

[Scoogs]

Sure. THey should look over a complex 600 document that will define the NHL/NHLPA partnership for the next 6 years in two days to satisfy you. Then, in 3 years when there is the infamous 'loophole' everyone is trying to find on these boards because the agreement was not thoroughly looked over enough, everyone will say - stupid lawyers why didn't they see that?

2 days.

Try for the past what, 4 weeks now? Almost 5 weeks?

 

[futurcorerock]

Old news. Already a dozen threads on this same article.

Same article, different concept.

 

[NHLFanSince2020]

Same article, different concept.

Don't you mean different article, same concept?

 

[shveik]

"We lost a season for no reason," Legace told The Associated Press. "We should've crumbled last September when the owners wanted a salary cap."

"It makes no sense what we ended up doing," Legace said. "For years, Bob was telling us, `No cap. Owners aren't telling us the truth about their books.' Then out of nowhere, he gives the owners a 24-per cent rollback and it looked like we were panicking.

"Then after saying we wouldn't even consider a salary cap, he backed down on that at the last minute just before the lockout. It was too late, and now we're taking a worse deal."

I have to say I agree with what Legace is saying. If the NHLPA knew that they cannot stomach to be locked out for more than a year, then they should have bent over in September. But in September, all you could hear is that they are prepared for 2 year stoppage.

It's interesting to see that Legace is blaming Goodenow for not having a hard enough stance. He offered the rollback, even caved in on the cap trying to salvage the season. Made NHLPA look WEAK WEAK WEAK (I am having Nike goalie commercial flashbak) But I thought that the reason for these concessions (at least the February one, and the current almost done deal) is not Goodenow's softness, but the pressure from some NHLPA members. Now Legace is saying that it's all Bob? All you Goodenow bashers should send poor BG apology notes.